NOS 95 Raleigh Ti framesets. Opinions?

[FMJ]

Someone over here is selling these listed as 95 old stock frames. Something doesn't look right. The "welds", the dropouts, the (lack of) stickers. I can't put my finger on it. Any Raleigh experts care to chime in?

 

[WD Pro]

Are those your pictures ?

I ask because I am pretty sure I have seen them on here before - god knows how to find the thread they were on though ... :?

WD

 

[FMJ]

They're pics from the ad.

 

[WD Pro]

Yeah, defo been on here before then - let me do some digging

 

[RockiMtn]

those adverts have been posted up for ages, no? i think someone local prob asked the same question regarding these.

 

[mfh126]

Maybe it's just me, but doesn't that headtube angle look extremely steep, or the seat tube extremely slack?

 

[PeteC]

I'm far from an expert on anything Raleigh, but in my limited experience, all of the Ti Raleigh frames I've seen had a wishbone seat stay, none were fast back as in your pics. Additionally, according to MOMBAT, the Ti frames were only made from ~1992 (when JT joined their ranks) until 1994 (when he left). So, there were no 1995 Ti Raleigh frames to be had.

 

[grogee]

What's the price and where are they being sold? Regardless of the provenance the frame looks to be very high quality, nice welds and cable stop detail.

I think the weird head tube/seat tube angles are an optical illusion from a fisheye lens.

 

[Woz]

I pretty sure there was a later Tomac version (Raleigh USA specific?) with stays like that, rather than the common Torus with a wishbone for the canti-hanger boss.

EDIT: mmmmh. This is where I saw it: http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/670955/
Some later Dynatec look similar without the wishbone too.

 

[ishaw]

I'm sure there were later ones without the wishbone too, they even did painted versions towards the year 2000 iirc.