Long term unemployed to be asked to give back something

[KeepItSteel]

On that note do you need to be out of work / hard done by / have no aspirations for years and years to be considered 'having worthy life experience'?

I know i'd rather trust well educated people to make the important decesions.

 

[sgw]

I know i'd rather trust well educated people to make the important decesions.

In your position, I would probably think the same. As it is, I would rather make my own.

 

[silverclaws]

On that note do you need to be out of work / hard done by / have no aspirations for years and years to be considered 'having worthy life experience'?

I know i'd rather trust well educated people to make the important decesions.

I would say it helps, as being in the situation is often a whole lot different from what the newspapers tell everyone else. Experience is always better than just reading about it in anything, experience as opposed to theory.

I used to be scathing of the unemployed like many on here when I was employed, but when I went to the bottom to see for myself that is where I learned the education the masses are fed to provide a scapegoat for whatever is the current ill is largely fanciful and unfair.

 

[KeepItSteel]

On that note do you need to be out of work / hard done by / have no aspirations for years and years to be considered 'having worthy life experience'?

I know i'd rather trust well educated people to make the important decesions.

I would say it helps, as being in the situation is often a whole lot different from what the newspapers tell everyone else. Experience is always better than just reading about it in anything, experience as opposed to theory.

I used to be scathing of the unemployed like many on here when I was employed, but when I went to the bottom to see for myself that is where I learned the education the masses are fed to provide a scapegoat for whatever is the current ill is largely fanciful and unfair.

So you wont be happy until the country is run by a cabinet whom have all been on the dole?

The many you refer to on here as being scathing of the unemployed are being misrepresented.
The point being made (repeatedly) is the wish to try and prevent the genuine work shy - the families whom have never worked or refuse to work - from leading that lifestyle.

 

[KeepItSteel]

I know i'd rather trust well educated people to make the important decesions.

In your position, I would probably think the same. As it is, I would rather make my own.

Are you speaking for me?
I dont think i'd like you making the important decisions on behalf of the country per se.
I'll put my trust in democracy.

 

[jamabikes]

big dogs cock (feathered)

 

[sgw]

Are you speaking for me?.

Quite clearly I said "my own decisions". Those incapable at arriving at their own could always abstain.

I'll put my trust in democracy.

But you have no democracy! We are currently being governed by the Tories who have no legitimate mandate and received only 36% of the popular vote. Propped up of course by the Lib Dem leadership who sold out their own party and voters for personal gain.

There are at least 14 forms of democracy. Ours is known as broken. If you are genuinely interested in true democracy, look no further:-

Direct democracy, classically termed pure democracy, is a form of democracy and a theory of civics in which sovereignty is lodged in the assembly of all citizens who choose to participate. <> Direct democracy stands in contrast to representative democracy, where sovereignty is exercised by a subset of the people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy

(btw... My spill chuckler wants to call you "Epistle". How totaly inapropriate is that!)

 

[KeepItSteel]

More British citizens voted for the Tories, if thats as good as its get then i'll settle for that.

If the working classes are revolting, then im even happier. What what.

 

[silverclaws]

On that note do you need to be out of work / hard done by / have no aspirations for years and years to be considered 'having worthy life experience'?

I know i'd rather trust well educated people to make the important decesions.

I would say it helps, as being in the situation is often a whole lot different from what the newspapers tell everyone else. Experience is always better than just reading about it in anything, experience as opposed to theory.

I used to be scathing of the unemployed like many on here when I was employed, but when I went to the bottom to see for myself that is where I learned the education the masses are fed to provide a scapegoat for whatever is the current ill is largely fanciful and unfair.

So you wont be happy until the country is run by a cabinet whom have all been on the dole?

The many you refer to on here as being scathing of the unemployed are being misrepresented.
The point being made (repeatedly) is the wish to try and prevent the genuine work shy - the families whom have never worked or refuse to work - from leading that lifestyle.

But honestly do you really think families that have never worked or not worked for a long time are going to work because they get their benefits stopped, a good threat, except it won't work, why, because when you use the term family that implies the possibility of children in that family and there in no way any government is going to take money away that affects the welfare of children. If it did, think of the outcry not only from this country, but Europe and the rest of the civilised world, the government would be likened to the worst of dictatoral regimes.

So seeing as families could well escape, who they gonna get, someone has to be made example of, like as not it will not be the families that have never worked or not worked in a long time that will feel the effect even though they are the ones identified by the press and now the politicians as being the centre of the problem.

But as to your suggestion that I would not be happy unless the cabinet had all been on the dole, hardly, but I would be happier if the government was drawn from a cross section of society, from the poorest to the richest so the government actually does represent the populace, not just the elite. I would also be happier if the politicians were made accountable for their policies, not the present hit and run type ideas.

 

[KeepItSteel]

In that case, you need to vote for the local MP's whom best represent your ideals.
And you'll need to convince the rest of the country to vote with you.

And yes, I think adults that have never worked and/or refuse to work, without genuine good reason should certainly be 'bullied' into working.

Taken to the 'nth' degree, if at once we all choose to live like them - where would we end up then?

I dont understand the objection to insisting that able bodied people should have a work ethic instilled into them.