Long term unemployed to be asked to give back something

[IDB1]

Can't see how 1month every year will rekindle the work ethic in the workshy..

 

[dbmtb]

the not so delicate instrument of government isn't exactly accurate or intelligent and it is that that people fear, myself included.

Just call a sledgehammer a sledgehammer and have done with it.

 

[dbmtb]

entire areas and communities that do not understand the welfare deal, i.e help when needed, to take from a system at a time of need based on an understanding that it will be given back via taxes when circumstances change.

Which brings us back to that other thread about Thatcherism and its long-term effects. If I may be so bold.

Circumstances didn't change in some areas. Things only began to pick up in South Yorkshire after a massive cash injection from the European Community but even in the feel-good days of the late-90s and most of the noughties, my own town Barnsley was never really back on its feet.

The real tragedy is that it seems the Labour administration left that particular stew and others like it on the simmer to deal with later, and never quite got round to.

Not that I'm one to point fingers as I bailed out at the first opportunity.

 

[silverclaws]

The other problem that I perceive with the unemployed is an almost perpetual depressive or negative state, hope seems lost and that gets comfortable, and people fall for the life of no hope but a meagre income via benefits, it is an existence at least. Once proud hard working people fall into this trap, not many can avoid it and there the routes of self medication in whatever form that takes as self medication is a time away from the present and who would not like to escape the reality of their lives now and again. I certainly don't believe drug addicts and alcohlics become what they are through choice, but poverty and addiction seem to go hand in hand, which really does say a lot about what is regarded as living standards in this country.

The further the unemployed fall away from work, the harder it becomes to be employed, not just for the unemployed, but for prospective employers as well as they do not want laong term unemployed for fear that they are lazy.

What I believe will change the status quo, is a move towards a fairer more caring country where the expectation of the poor is raised so that they believe in the country they were born into and by that belief, they work for the county's best interests, the betterment of the country and via that the betterment of their own standards of living. Communities come first not individuals of corporations.

 

[IDB1]

Couple of Incapacity Benefits facts from the FT's Top Ten

2. About 40 per cent suffer from a mental illness or bad nerves. They are half as likely to find work as someone with a physical disability.

6.The new test is projected to push more than a million claimants on the dole, steadily increasing the jobless claimant count to 3m by 2014.

9. After a year on the benefit, the average length of claim is eight years. After two years on the benefit, a claimant is more likely to die or retire than find work.

 

[silverclaws]

Of course there is also the businesses that parasite off the unemployed, for people out of work is business, all that funding that can be scrounged to run back to work programmes, literacy programmes etc. If there were no unemployed these businesses like I4E would have no work, so the unemployed despised as they are are necessary for UK business.

 

[lumos2000]

i have around 200 job related emails in my inbox from the last 3 months, ive heard back from about 3 of them.
its shit being unemployed and i cant see that people would seriously consider it as a carrier option, but i can see how they just give up.
personaly id be happy to work for free as long as it helped with the cost, ie childcare if needed and travle costs.

 

[silverclaws]

And because the unemployed are being villified, we feel like public enemy number one at the moment, that amounts to alienation from a society we are supposed to be part of, and you think the unemployed want to kow tow to a country that makes them feel like that, get real for we are hated with a vengeance and we know it.

But whilst a government and press are focusing the public attention on the defenceless, what else is going on which might be draining the county's coffers, a war for instance, could that be a cause of money being wasted, not to mention lives and of those that survive when they leave the service, they are treated like crap as no one wants to know an ex soldier in peace time and especially a soldier that has come out of the service with conflict related problems and service institutionalisation for that is a big problem, the conversion to civvy street.

 

[gibbleking]

i see abu hamza(egyptian terrorist and fake marriage artist ) is having 100 grand spent on his house by the social even tho hes in prision....makes ya think doent it



thats at least 2 haircuts wasted ...right there. :roll:

 

[marin man]

I have been reading the replies since yesterday and I say this:;

The people who are mainly complaining are the people who are sitiing around all day typing remarks on this topic :roll:

And as for the war yes an absolute waste of money and you can blame labour for that

I just think that some people think they are too good for some jobs,If I really needed a job I would do anything,and have done in the past.

You have to contribute to your local community end of subject,you can not just take take take,I am not saying that all claimants do this,and I know several people who are legitimately claiming a bit of help.

I know this though if it carrys on as is we will end up thouroughly bankrupt ...shame really the most powerful nation and empire in the world turned in to a haven for the idle....its disgusting. :x