Innovations that weren't...

[madjh]

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Christini was the sequel, and even today they make the first fat bike with AWD. And their motorcycles has AWD.

 

[Splatter Paint]

If some cycling marketing bod comes across this thread…. it’ll all come back

Apart from Kirks, they were crap

 

[Woz]

@madjh - RE: 2 wheel drive. Nothing new in cycling. But why? I can't honestly see any serious transmission of energy from the cranks to the front wheel that would be beneficial against the back wheel only drive with a chain. Not to mention how to freewheel too.

 

[Woz]

On the go rectal douche

Actually if it was water or oil filled it would be better. The problem with air and liquids they have a nasty habit of finding the path of least resistance. I've understood this concept is nothing entirely new, and Campagnolo were not in that kind of engineering business to know better.

Apparently with evidence. to go ahead with this product.

So, you would sit on said saddle, bum bones would sink in, offer no comfort at all, but your ball sack meat and two veg. would go up - a bit like having a fluffer in the arctic circle but pump operated for your pleasure. Pump action saddle must have been a talking point.

 

[greencat]

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Here's a perfect example of us bikes people being patronised by the "automobile and aerospace" engineer, overcoming those "problems" of making cycle frames from drawn tubes.
Heavy, weak and dull.

Engineers are some of the most arrogant people I've come across. Even, or perhaps especially, when commenting outside of their domain when they nearly always have iconoclastic views at odds with 99% of those actually working in that field. I know a local one who still insists solar panels don't work. He posts articles on FB about oversupply and the cheapness of them as evidence no-one wants them.

I suspect Kirk's perception of bicycle manufacture was grounded in memories of blokes wearing flat caps welding tubes in sheds. Obviously, this is still correct for boutique bike producers - but not for the vast majority of bikes produced in Taiwan etc.

 

[legrandefromage]

'I'm an engineer!'

OK, but you've put your pedals on back to front

'I wondered why they were tight!'

See that L and R stamp?

'oh...'

Hydraulic disc brakes failed miserably in the 1970s because they were, at the time, only to be found on very cheap clattery leisure bikes made to look like road bikes

50 years on, you are considered weird if you ride with anything other than a disc brake

 

[FluffyChicken]

@madjh - RE: 2 wheel drive. Nothing new in cycling. But why? I can't honestly see any serious transmission of energy from the cranks to the front wheel that would be beneficial against the back wheel only drive with a chain. Not to mention how to freewheel too.

With the inevitable move to pedal by wire, that'll not be a problem, just the AWD ATB will be reborn via hub powered wheels, interconnected with you suspension, brake levers and weight shift to work out where power distribution will be applied.
Until the lidar and camera sensors come onboard.

 

[dyna-ti]

that kirk's got the seatpost fitting rack already!

Not even selling at £10, with xt vs

Its still got 1/2 a fence attached to it

 

[Stressed]

Saw these and thought of this thread

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/29502647...45HB5G&hash=item44b0f2ad83:g:RwoAAOSwB0tin4YA

 

[Tootyred]

Quad chainsets - when you really must have 32+ options.

Just realised there's a member on the forum this would be ideal for!