I don't get why some people don't get ebikes.

[greencat]

It's all about where you draw the line, isn't it? Nature doesn't need us walking or cycling or ebiking into it. If it was able to express a preference, it would probably be that we shouldn't bother.

There is definitely a good point around destroying other people's natural resources to enjoy our own (but the point could be extended to clothing, boots, even normal bikes - never mind driving, flying or other forms of travel there). But lithium battery recycling rates are also really poor in comparison to lead acid ones. Hopefully, that will change.

 

[synchronicity]

The e-bikers I see in my area are not at all doing it for commuting though are they?
They are invariably mountainbikers.
They usually have 4 ebikes vertically stacked on the back of their SUV.
They always seem to drive to the start point / trail head. Well okay.
But you're not telling me that is better for the environment than having 4 normal bikes.
I'm not having it. It's worse.

Because now they are using a car and an e-bike instead of a car and a normal non-e-bike.

 

[highlandsflyer]

I know a few who are leaving the car at home thanks to having an 'easy' option to get into the hills. I'm all for that; and one of our primary hopes is to get into that position regarding our favourite local rides. For that we need a minimum of thirty miles 'real' range. I don't see me wanting to use an assist bike day to day though. I bet they all say that!

 

[mdvineng]

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...ter-uk-ebike-owners-plagued-by-failing-motors

 

[MattiThundrrr]

It's not the water. It is in the design:

"The 71-year-old’s £5,000 Cube bike with a fourth-generation Bosch electric motor stopped working outside the warranty.
Although it was resurrected by a software update and did not require a replacement, he says that after trawling the various cycling forums he was astonished by the number of motors that have had to be replaced."

They are doing it on purpose.

 

[MattiThundrrr]

Electric motorboats and electric dirt bikes can handle water. Bikers are suckers who will pay up for the latest technology simply because it exists

 

[MattiThundrrr]

“I have seen multiple reports of riders having between three and five replacements over two years. They appear to suffer error codes after minor shocks or being too close to a magnetic source.

“Riders’ bikes have stopped working after they simply leant their bike against a lamp-post, or rode over a [magnetic] traffic light sensor grid in the road."

Grrrrrrrr. And the article did not even mention fires

 

[Twozaskars]

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...ter-uk-ebike-owners-plagued-by-failing-motors

How can you expect the retailer to be responsible for your bike repairs for up to 6 years when the manufacturer only gives a 2-year warranty?

 

[FluffyChicken]

How can you expect the retailer to be responsible for your bike repairs for up to 6 years when the manufacturer only gives a 2-year warranty?

Expected lifetime of a product, it's written into our consumer laws.

 

[Twozaskars]

Expected lifetime of a product, it's written into our consumer laws.

But then what does the dealer do?