I don't get why some people don't get ebikes.

[greencat]

It's all about where you draw the line, isn't it? Nature doesn't need us walking or cycling or ebiking into it. If it was able to express a preference, it would probably be that we shouldn't bother.

There is definitely a good point around destroying other people's natural resources to enjoy our own (but the point could be extended to clothing, boots, even normal bikes - never mind driving, flying or other forms of travel there). But lithium battery recycling rates are also really poor in comparison to lead acid ones. Hopefully, that will change.

 

[synchronicity]

The e-bikers I see in my area are not at all doing it for commuting though are they?
They are invariably mountainbikers.
They usually have 4 ebikes vertically stacked on the back of their SUV.
They always seem to drive to the start point / trail head. Well okay.
But you're not telling me that is better for the environment than having 4 normal bikes.
I'm not having it. It's worse.

Because now they are using a car and an e-bike instead of a car and a normal non-e-bike.

 

[highlandsflyer]

I know a few who are leaving the car at home thanks to having an 'easy' option to get into the hills. I'm all for that; and one of our primary hopes is to get into that position regarding our favourite local rides. For that we need a minimum of thirty miles 'real' range. I don't see me wanting to use an assist bike day to day though. I bet they all say that!

 

[mdvineng]

‘The big problem is water’: UK ebike owners plagued by failing motors

Repair business is booming as owners complain of their units needing to be replaced up to five times

www.theguardian.com

 

[MattiThundrrr]

It's not the water. It is in the design:

"The 71-year-old’s £5,000 Cube bike with a fourth-generation Bosch electric motor stopped working outside the warranty.
Although it was resurrected by a software update and did not require a replacement, he says that after trawling the various cycling forums he was astonished by the number of motors that have had to be replaced."

They are doing it on purpose.

 

[MattiThundrrr]

Electric motorboats and electric dirt bikes can handle water. Bikers are suckers who will pay up for the latest technology simply because it exists

 

[MattiThundrrr]

“I have seen multiple reports of riders having between three and five replacements over two years. They appear to suffer error codes after minor shocks or being too close to a magnetic source.

“Riders’ bikes have stopped working after they simply leant their bike against a lamp-post, or rode over a [magnetic] traffic light sensor grid in the road."

Grrrrrrrr. And the article did not even mention fires

 

[Twozaskars]

‘The big problem is water’: UK ebike owners plagued by failing motors

Repair business is booming as owners complain of their units needing to be replaced up to five times

www.theguardian.com

How can you expect the retailer to be responsible for your bike repairs for up to 6 years when the manufacturer only gives a 2-year warranty?

 

[FluffyChicken]

How can you expect the retailer to be responsible for your bike repairs for up to 6 years when the manufacturer only gives a 2-year warranty?

Expected lifetime of a product, it's written into our consumer laws.

 

[Twozaskars]

Expected lifetime of a product, it's written into our consumer laws.

But then what does the dealer do?