legrandefromage":165t4cuk said:ssssnakey
I always thought 'shot in stays' were fast back stays
Shot-in stays are essentially the same as fast back but usually just below (and separate from) the seat clamp. The key thing is that they are fixed end-on to the seat-tube not side-on.
It is a bit weak for a brazed joint, therefore only for fancy road racing and TT bikes; but seems to be fine for welded frames of any type.