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Steel was, is and always will be the only material in my eyes
I must admit I am a little 'blinkered'
Steel was, is and always will be the only material in my eyes
I must admit I am a little 'blinkered'
Thank god for retro bikes
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Same here, after briefly falling in love with Ti and alu. But once I got over my weight weenie obsession, I realized what I really need is to have absolute confidence in the indestructibility of my frame, stem, bar, and seatpost, so I can ride harder and not worry mid ride whether that creak is due to a crack somewhere. The big epiphany that I hate alu came after I got home from a 50 km marathon style race, during which my bar developed a click. On removing the bar, I found a large crack going 90% the way round the circumference of the bar's central bulge, meaning I was pretty lucky to finish the race without having faceplanted!!
So for me it's steel all the way now, I just wish it was easier to find decent steel bars...
widowmaker":tv7bzufa said:Steel was, is and always will be the only material in my eyes
Same here, after briefly falling in love with Ti and alu. But once I got over my weight weenie obsession, I realized what I really need is to have absolute confidence in the indestructibility of my frame, stem, bar, and seatpost, so I can ride harder and not worry mid ride whether that creak is due to a crack somewhere. The big epiphany that I hate alu came after I got home from a 50 km marathon style race, during which my bar developed a click. On removing the bar, I found a large crack going 90% the way round the circumference of the bar's central bulge, meaning I was pretty lucky to finish the race without having faceplanted!!
So for me it's steel all the way now, I just wish it was easier to find decent steel bars...
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Absolute confidence is what I have in steel, the small/ish weight disadvantage is worth paying for, I have never broken a steel frame and have tried over the years.
And another reason I only ever ride steel is that I cant afford anything else
Absolute confidence is what I have in steel, the small/ish weight disadvantage is worth paying for, I have never broken a steel frame and have tried over the years.
And another reason I only ever ride steel is that I cant afford anything else
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There always have been and always will be those exotic high end bikes and parts that we mere mortals cant afford and thats fine , well its not actually but at least it gives us something to dream about ! but what shocked me was the huge numbers involved , " entry level " hardtails seem to be £800 and no one seems to bat an eyelid at £4000 full suss bikes , jealous, me ? of course i am but do we NEED this stuff to enjoy what we do as the mags would have us belive ? no of course not .
I mean £150 , really ? how good can a rucksack be
There always have been and always will be those exotic high end bikes and parts that we mere mortals cant afford and thats fine , well its not actually but at least it gives us something to dream about ! but what shocked me was the huge numbers involved , " entry level " hardtails seem to be £800 and no one seems to bat an eyelid at £4000 full suss bikes , jealous, me ? of course i am but do we NEED this stuff to enjoy what we do as the mags would have us belive ? no of course not .
I mean £150 , really ? how good can a rucksack be
minor_LEGEND
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Everyones circumstances & reasons for riding are different.
I've spent nearly all my tyears off-roading having to explain why I ride/choose a rigid bike. No ones business but mine.
Lastly I thank my lucky stars I'm not gullible enough to believe everything I read in mags.
I've spent nearly all my tyears off-roading having to explain why I ride/choose a rigid bike. No ones business but mine.
Lastly I thank my lucky stars I'm not gullible enough to believe everything I read in mags.
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Sometimes a certain bike just feels right - no way of explaining why
My Karma Saracen feels right
Sometimes a certain bike just feels right - no way of explaining why
My Karma Saracen feels right
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Tbf, as fat as i am (im in the larger chap category as mentioned by others) i agree with you Craig, i feel faster on my 93 Lava Dome and strava backs this up, and i felt like i rode harder and had more fun on my new 96 Lava Dome on a 35 mile ride yesterday, than i have been recently on my 98 Caldera (with Z3 Bombers) and both Lava Dome's are rigid!
Stipen2317
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I regularly monitor our local ads here to find some retro goodies, and it really shows how effective those magazines are, most of the bikes being sold (for an upgrade) are only up to 4 years old fs with very low miles.
fun and more earth friendly, retro is the way to go!
fun and more earth friendly, retro is the way to go!
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Minus the race comment because I've never done that, I echo everything you said. For me, the enjoyment is going as fast as I can, for as long as I can and I can't do that without being fit. I've lost count the number of times, the more portly gentlemen - on roads and off - zoom off at the start (or at the lights) and within a fairly short period of time are blowing a gasket. And as for climbs, it looks like there're going backwards. I struggle to think how much fun that is. Shift a few pounds / stone and trust me, it's a lot more fun! (I shed about 2 stone 2 years ago and the speed and endurance increases are remarkable).
It also means I can ride a lighter, more agile bike, without the fear my arse is going to break it. It also means I can sit on Flite's without them cutting up my hole.
Of course it's horses for courses and whatever floats folks boats. It's just amazing what shifting a bit of weight can do to put an even bigger grin next time you're on the trails
Mike Muz 67":69mz0g3l said:
Minus the race comment because I've never done that, I echo everything you said. For me, the enjoyment is going as fast as I can, for as long as I can and I can't do that without being fit. I've lost count the number of times, the more portly gentlemen - on roads and off - zoom off at the start (or at the lights) and within a fairly short period of time are blowing a gasket. And as for climbs, it looks like there're going backwards. I struggle to think how much fun that is. Shift a few pounds / stone and trust me, it's a lot more fun! (I shed about 2 stone 2 years ago and the speed and endurance increases are remarkable).
It also means I can ride a lighter, more agile bike, without the fear my arse is going to break it. It also means I can sit on Flite's without them cutting up my hole.
Of course it's horses for courses and whatever floats folks boats. It's just amazing what shifting a bit of weight can do to put an even bigger grin next time you're on the trails
