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Gosh get off the fence would you!
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Gosh get off the fence would you!
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"Letter from Ross McEwan, RBS Chief Executive to staff
Dear colleagues
We have today made a statement to the market (see below), providing information on our contingency planning in the event of a Yes vote in next week’s referendum on Scottish independence. As you will have seen over the last twenty four hours, other Scottish headquartered financial institutions have made public statements about their intentions. This served to fuel media speculation about our own plans, and in those circumstances, it became necessary for us to update the market on aspects of our contingency planning.
It is my view as Chief Executive that any decision to move our registered headquarters should have no impact on everyday banking services used by our customers in Scotland and the rest of the British Isles. This is a technical procedure regarding the location of our registered head office. It is not an intention to move operations or jobs.
Our current business in Scotland, including the personal and business bank, IT and operations, human resources and many other functions, are here because of the skills and knowledge of our people, and the sound business environment. So far, I see no reason why this would change should we implement our contingency plans.
It is always my aim to ensure we inform our staff about such issues at the earliest opportunity. I know many of you will have already heard about this first in the media. My apologies for that, on this occasion this was unavoidable.
Over the next week, and beyond, we will continue to update you whenever appropriate.
Ross McEwan
Chief Executive"
The release of this letter was felt necessary after reports in newspapers were erroneously suggesting the whole operation would be moved, rather than the brass plates as Salmond pointed out.
The flag waving being done during this referendum is a natural exuberance and pride in nationhood, it has none of the sinister undertones and undercurrent of violent struggle that many nationalist movements feed off. Clearly different.
I really would suggest it has been a generally respectful and good humoured campaign, certainly at a local level.
As for the suggestion we would be swapping rule from Westminster for rule from Edinburgh, that is at least more local. The Scottish parliament is made up of politicians from all over Scotland, urban and rural. They have a much stronger grasp of what needs to be done to improve on the current situation.
Westminster don't even tour Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland; which one would expect if they wished to show their interest in the other members of the union.
At least a Scottish parliament is speaking the same language as the people of Scotland.
As for EU membership, if there were any indication we might be better out-with we could have a vote on it.
A little like the one that has been mooted time and time again but never materialised under the Tories.
"Letter from Ross McEwan, RBS Chief Executive to staff
Dear colleagues
We have today made a statement to the market (see below), providing information on our contingency planning in the event of a Yes vote in next week’s referendum on Scottish independence. As you will have seen over the last twenty four hours, other Scottish headquartered financial institutions have made public statements about their intentions. This served to fuel media speculation about our own plans, and in those circumstances, it became necessary for us to update the market on aspects of our contingency planning.
It is my view as Chief Executive that any decision to move our registered headquarters should have no impact on everyday banking services used by our customers in Scotland and the rest of the British Isles. This is a technical procedure regarding the location of our registered head office. It is not an intention to move operations or jobs.
Our current business in Scotland, including the personal and business bank, IT and operations, human resources and many other functions, are here because of the skills and knowledge of our people, and the sound business environment. So far, I see no reason why this would change should we implement our contingency plans.
It is always my aim to ensure we inform our staff about such issues at the earliest opportunity. I know many of you will have already heard about this first in the media. My apologies for that, on this occasion this was unavoidable.
Over the next week, and beyond, we will continue to update you whenever appropriate.
Ross McEwan
Chief Executive"
The release of this letter was felt necessary after reports in newspapers were erroneously suggesting the whole operation would be moved, rather than the brass plates as Salmond pointed out.
The flag waving being done during this referendum is a natural exuberance and pride in nationhood, it has none of the sinister undertones and undercurrent of violent struggle that many nationalist movements feed off. Clearly different.
I really would suggest it has been a generally respectful and good humoured campaign, certainly at a local level.
As for the suggestion we would be swapping rule from Westminster for rule from Edinburgh, that is at least more local. The Scottish parliament is made up of politicians from all over Scotland, urban and rural. They have a much stronger grasp of what needs to be done to improve on the current situation.
Westminster don't even tour Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland; which one would expect if they wished to show their interest in the other members of the union.
At least a Scottish parliament is speaking the same language as the people of Scotland.
As for EU membership, if there were any indication we might be better out-with we could have a vote on it.
A little like the one that has been mooted time and time again but never materialised under the Tories.
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Yes I'm stupid your clever, my questions are the simple ones yes , surely these must be getting asked as well , Tories and Westminster scaremongering and such can't be making any decision easy, leap of faith king salmond will save the day or end up in shite. Can't see how five million tax payers in Scotland contribute enough in taxies to cover what Scottish government is going to need to pay for everything. That's assuming there all working,, oil doubt if it brings that much in taxies really, pensions free education health care bus passes this has got to cost heaps. Just read fourty million bank accounts in Scotland are from people south of the boarder , will there be a run on banks mmmmm can't have a isa or tax break on money in another country if I read the article correctly so just ware will the money come from. As I say lots lots lots questions I've watched debates and no one really says wtf is going to happen. Am I ever to work with any more great down to earth sweaty socks on any jobs soon Who knowshighlandsflyer":2b9k5ixn said:
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The Proms, Jerusalem, the irony!
Even the NO campaign ditched the hackneyed crap about Scotland not being able to pay for itself, why you persist I have no idea. Willing ignorance I suppose.
I heard a couple of good arguments for NO this evening, from an Egyptian immigrant and a local young lass who works in the chip shop. Eloquently put, and you could not fault their logic.
If nothing else this whole thing has got us talking.
Sparkle, forgive me for taking a little offence, but go back as far as you like and find me referring to the English in such a manner.
The Proms, Jerusalem, the irony!
Even the NO campaign ditched the hackneyed crap about Scotland not being able to pay for itself, why you persist I have no idea. Willing ignorance I suppose.
I heard a couple of good arguments for NO this evening, from an Egyptian immigrant and a local young lass who works in the chip shop. Eloquently put, and you could not fault their logic.
If nothing else this whole thing has got us talking.
Sparkle, forgive me for taking a little offence, but go back as far as you like and find me referring to the English in such a manner.
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Oh the irony as they all sing "Auld Lang Syne"..
Burns would most definitely have been a YES, YES, YES!!!!
Oh the irony as they all sing "Auld Lang Syne"..
Burns would most definitely have been a YES, YES, YES!!!!
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The underhanded scaremongering is completely out of hand,the banks/institutions are at it and of course Osborne`s G8 meeting cancellation is a blatantly orchestrated ruse.
The underhanded scaremongering is completely out of hand,the banks/institutions are at it and of course Osborne`s G8 meeting cancellation is a blatantly orchestrated ruse.
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Tax-fiscal adjustment
Licence-permit
Union-colonialism/imperialism
Sugar coat it any way you like.....
Less emotive terms for the gullible-secret_squirrel":2z75kyz9 said:
Tax-fiscal adjustment
Licence-permit
Union-colonialism/imperialism
Sugar coat it any way you like.....
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The nationalists appear to have gained significant momentum on an emotional ticket and, quite rightly, capitalised on the fact that Westminster doesn't represent the overwhelming views of the current Scottish residents (and is unlikely to in the near future). Not allowing Devo-Max on the original ballet paper was a poor judgement call by the current government, summarises the contempt that they treat the voter with (especially in Scotland) and demonstrates their arrogance in thinking that a Yes campaign would have absolutely no legs. Indeed, having Devo-Max as a choice would have given the majority of moderate voters who want change and more devolved powers without having to also vote for relative economic instability and weak national security.
Let's hope that in the event of a no vote Devo-Max becomes a reality, as now promised. I'm just disappointed that I'm now not eligible to vote :cry:
The nationalists appear to have gained significant momentum on an emotional ticket and, quite rightly, capitalised on the fact that Westminster doesn't represent the overwhelming views of the current Scottish residents (and is unlikely to in the near future). Not allowing Devo-Max on the original ballet paper was a poor judgement call by the current government, summarises the contempt that they treat the voter with (especially in Scotland) and demonstrates their arrogance in thinking that a Yes campaign would have absolutely no legs. Indeed, having Devo-Max as a choice would have given the majority of moderate voters who want change and more devolved powers without having to also vote for relative economic instability and weak national security.
Let's hope that in the event of a no vote Devo-Max becomes a reality, as now promised. I'm just disappointed that I'm now not eligible to vote :cry:
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as said i just cant see ware king salmond is going to get all the money from,,and as ive herd osbourne wants the other 86 percent of english tax payers to be there to pick up the bill if scotland goes tits up ...ive not been asked as a english tax payer weather im willing to do this, least your getting a vote seems to me this is going to effect the whole of the uk good or bad im sure we agree on that so why arnt the english getting a vote weather the union is broken up,,,,,,,willing ignorance maybe but i just cant see how a work force of such a small size can contribute enough in taxies to pay for everything, u get free uni education , etc etc if you have the numbers like gdp of scotland tax revenue , are scottish voters asking these questions like are the taxies going up down , jobs etc exports imports, so many little things , do you get the stone back from under the chair in westminster abbey,,,,if anything its been interesting to watch and im starting to think its going to be a yes vote....as for the earlier comment could scotland go the way of northern island with unrest im sure some ones going to be pissed off and the bands and flag wavers were marching on tv tonight,,,aa i hear you say look at ukraine, and other places it does happen....tho i give the scots more credit as not to be so silly,,,sorry if my questions seem not clever or well put as yours just like to think about wtf could happen.....hey maybe after fifty years were invade again and steel your wind turbines
ive never said that you have,you seem to have all the answers,, ive been on the scottish site and yes they make a good case to ditch the english, seems strange that you contribute about 9 percent to total tax but dont quite get that back,,if everything is true on the site and it does seem to be we can do without the english and we need you more than you need us , is how im seeing it. then best you go. its just all the little things that just pop up.sorry if sweaty sock offends you i take that back,,,highlandsflyer":18jv7hvx said:
as said i just cant see ware king salmond is going to get all the money from,,and as ive herd osbourne wants the other 86 percent of english tax payers to be there to pick up the bill if scotland goes tits up ...ive not been asked as a english tax payer weather im willing to do this, least your getting a vote seems to me this is going to effect the whole of the uk good or bad im sure we agree on that so why arnt the english getting a vote weather the union is broken up,,,,,,,willing ignorance maybe but i just cant see how a work force of such a small size can contribute enough in taxies to pay for everything, u get free uni education , etc etc if you have the numbers like gdp of scotland tax revenue , are scottish voters asking these questions like are the taxies going up down , jobs etc exports imports, so many little things , do you get the stone back from under the chair in westminster abbey,,,,if anything its been interesting to watch and im starting to think its going to be a yes vote....as for the earlier comment could scotland go the way of northern island with unrest im sure some ones going to be pissed off and the bands and flag wavers were marching on tv tonight,,,aa i hear you say look at ukraine, and other places it does happen....tho i give the scots more credit as not to be so silly,,,sorry if my questions seem not clever or well put as yours just like to think about wtf could happen.....hey maybe after fifty years were invade again and steel your wind turbines
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