Just me?

[REKIBorter]

But how much is a Sunburst Les Paul owned and played by Les Paul? If this bike is owned by a well known mtb pioneer would it make it worth more?

 

[highlandsflyer]

What if you had a spare $20K to spend?

Are you insane?

If you've got 20k to blow, you really need to take the advice of a fictitious robot cartoon character from the future - ask yourself: What would Bender do? Hookers and black-jack of course.

Black-jack is some kind of escort service?

 

[highlandsflyer]

But how much is a Sunburst Les Paul owned and played by Les Paul? If this bike is owned by a well known mtb pioneer would it make it worth more?

I am sure if that Breezer had been ridden by Hendrix it would easily double its price.

 

[jamabikes]

Again my issue isn't that it's worth that much it's the fact we are at a point where it can be worth that much. Retro biking to me is reliving my halcyon days of biking, and it saddens me that it's becoming so expensive to do so. Sour grapes? He'll yeah! May be I need some time out....

I am struggling to understand.

You can pick up retro bikes for relative peanuts.

Yes, the trend has seen prices of early gruppos etc. hike up, but you can still get 'em cheap if you are patient.

Is it really so expensive, unless you think the right to an iconic MTB at flea market prices should be a human right?

Tbh I wouldn't buy it even if it was cheap as it means nothing to me. As I will say again, it's not wether it's worth 20 k it's the fact that a mountain bike can be worth that..

Simple case of market forces.

 

[Neil]

I wouldnt buy the breezer. If I were to buy retro it would probably be a mint db apex from 1995 in matt blue.

I'm guessing that's post modern irony?

Speaking as somebody who has 2 minty DB Apex (what IS the plural of apex, again?) from 95, in matt blue (admittedly, one of them is lumbered with the gloss red forks from the other colour, that year). I'm not selling, even if they are mass-produced-run-of-the-mill-anybody-could-buy-one-barely-worth-the-lift-of-Roger-Moore's-eyebrow-to-pass-comment-on.

 

[Neil]

What if you had a spare $20K to spend?

Are you insane?

If you've got 20k to blow, you really need to take the advice of a fictitious robot cartoon character from the future - ask yourself: What would Bender do? Hookers and black-jack of course.

Black-jack is some kind of escort service?

All things lead to...

I believe it's some sort of contrived pastime, involving cards with pictures and numbers, and wagering money - but I could well be mistaken - 'course I've never participated in either, m'lud.

 

[jamabikes]

I wouldnt buy the breezer. If I were to buy retro it would probably be a mint db apex from 1995 in matt blue.

I'm guessing that's post modern irony?

Speaking as somebody who has 2 minty DB Apex (what IS the plural of apex, again?) from 95, in matt blue (admittedly, one of them is lumbered with the gloss red forks from the other colour, that year). I'm not selling, even if they are mass-produced-run-of-the-mill-anybody-could-buy-one-barely-worth-the-lift-of-Roger-Moore's-eyebrow-to-pass-comment-on.

He'll no! My first proper MTb! I still have it but it's sprayed black and not one Single part of it is original bar frame and forks. Wouldn't pay 20k for it though. I paid £500 for my original one so wouldn't pay any more than that even if I had £20000 spare.

 

[highlandsflyer]

So are we at the point of understanding you would want old bikes to cost less to buy now than they did new?

If that is the case, it surely does not apply to all of them? Some of them must be worth more in light of their significance, and if that is not relevant to you you can surely appreciate it might be to others and be somewhat less sad about it?

Personally if I came into the kind of money necessary to start throwing together an MTB collection that Breezer would be right up there on my list of desirable acquisitions, and given its rarity and significance 25k would be a bargain.

 

[Neil]

I wouldnt buy the breezer. If I were to buy retro it would probably be a mint db apex from 1995 in matt blue.

I'm guessing that's post modern irony?

Speaking as somebody who has 2 minty DB Apex (what IS the plural of apex, again?) from 95, in matt blue (admittedly, one of them is lumbered with the gloss red forks from the other colour, that year). I'm not selling, even if they are mass-produced-run-of-the-mill-anybody-could-buy-one-barely-worth-the-lift-of-Roger-Moore's-eyebrow-to-pass-comment-on.

He'll no! My first proper MTb! I still have it but it's sprayed black and not one Single part of it is original bar frame and forks. Wouldn't pay 20k for it though. I paid £500 for my original one so wouldn't pay any more than that even if I had £20000 spare.

My first / main 95 Apex is practically completely stock. Handlebars, pedals and tyres may have been swapped, but in all other respects is completely stock, and in great condition.

I'm about half-way through a thorough clean and polish of it (mind you, have been about half-way through that for about a year...)

 

[jamabikes]

So are we at the point of understanding you would want old bikes to cost less to buy now than they did new?

If that is the case, it surely does not apply to all of them? Some of them must be worth more in light of their significance, and if that is not relevant to you you can surely appreciate it might be to others and be somewhat less sad about it?

Personally if I came into the kind of money necessary to start throwing together an MTB collection that Breezer would be right up there on my list of desirable acquisitions, and given its rarity and significance 25k would be a bargain.

Not entirely. It's the fact that any bike can be worth so much money when it cant be ridden. Cos let's face it if you bought it you couldnt ride it.