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But how much is a Sunburst Les Paul owned and played by Les Paul? If this bike is owned by a well known mtb pioneer would it make it worth more?
Neil":2dqso1bn said:Are you insane?REKIBorter":2dqso1bn said:What if you had a spare $20K to spend?
If you've got 20k to blow, you really need to take the advice of a fictitious robot cartoon character from the future - ask yourself: What would Bender do? Hookers and black-jack of course.
REKIBorter":29baykda said:But how much is a Sunburst Les Paul owned and played by Les Paul? If this bike is owned by a well known mtb pioneer would it make it worth more?
highlandsflyer":afex552s said:jamabikes":afex552s said:Again my issue isn't that it's worth that much it's the fact we are at a point where it can be worth that much. Retro biking to me is reliving my halcyon days of biking, and it saddens me that it's becoming so expensive to do so. Sour grapes? He'll yeah! May be I need some time out....
I am struggling to understand.
You can pick up retro bikes for relative peanuts.
Yes, the trend has seen prices of early gruppos etc. hike up, but you can still get 'em cheap if you are patient.
Is it really so expensive, unless you think the right to an iconic MTB at flea market prices should be a human right?
Tbh I wouldn't buy it even if it was cheap as it means nothing to me. As I will say again, it's not wether it's worth 20 k it's the fact that a mountain bike can be worth that..
Simple case of market forces.
I'm guessing that's post modern irony?jamabikes":wfsojazv said:I wouldnt buy the breezer. If I were to buy retro it would probably be a mint db apex from 1995 in matt blue.
All things lead to...highlandsflyer":2k08fm9r said:Black-jack is some kind of escort service?Neil":2k08fm9r said:Are you insane?REKIBorter":2k08fm9r said:What if you had a spare $20K to spend?
If you've got 20k to blow, you really need to take the advice of a fictitious robot cartoon character from the future - ask yourself: What would Bender do? Hookers and black-jack of course.
Neil":10gg25j9 said:I'm guessing that's post modern irony?jamabikes":10gg25j9 said:I wouldnt buy the breezer. If I were to buy retro it would probably be a mint db apex from 1995 in matt blue.
Speaking as somebody who has 2 minty DB Apex (what IS the plural of apex, again?) from 95, in matt blue (admittedly, one of them is lumbered with the gloss red forks from the other colour, that year). I'm not selling, even if they are mass-produced-run-of-the-mill-anybody-could-buy-one-barely-worth-the-lift-of-Roger-Moore's-eyebrow-to-pass-comment-on.
My first / main 95 Apex is practically completely stock. Handlebars, pedals and tyres may have been swapped, but in all other respects is completely stock, and in great condition.jamabikes":glizdmvt said:He'll no! My first proper MTb! I still have it but it's sprayed black and not one Single part of it is original bar frame and forks. Wouldn't pay 20k for it though. I paid £500 for my original one so wouldn't pay any more than that even if I had £20000 spare.Neil":glizdmvt said:I'm guessing that's post modern irony?jamabikes":glizdmvt said:I wouldnt buy the breezer. If I were to buy retro it would probably be a mint db apex from 1995 in matt blue.
Speaking as somebody who has 2 minty DB Apex (what IS the plural of apex, again?) from 95, in matt blue (admittedly, one of them is lumbered with the gloss red forks from the other colour, that year). I'm not selling, even if they are mass-produced-run-of-the-mill-anybody-could-buy-one-barely-worth-the-lift-of-Roger-Moore's-eyebrow-to-pass-comment-on.
highlandsflyer":24roto5c said:So are we at the point of understanding you would want old bikes to cost less to buy now than they did new?
If that is the case, it surely does not apply to all of them? Some of them must be worth more in light of their significance, and if that is not relevant to you you can surely appreciate it might be to others and be somewhat less sad about it?
Personally if I came into the kind of money necessary to start throwing together an MTB collection that Breezer would be right up there on my list of desirable acquisitions, and given its rarity and significance 25k would be a bargain.