Depression is just plain nasty

[bagpuss]

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I have met the chap who wrote this book .
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/637 ... onate-mind

It was at a place I was working some years ago . He had just finished giving a lecture
to a group of students . I said thank you to him for his very insightful book shook his hand and I then left .

I can recommend it to anyone .

 

[l1ghthouse]

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getting the help you need isn't easy. Huge waiting lists, triage and underfunded departments.

Even if and when you can get an appointment it's difficult to explain the extent of your illness and harder to get an understanding ear.

I've been treated like a number (which I am let's not get on the high-horse and think i'm more important than anyone else...) and not been listened to.

45 minute appointment with a junior who is out to tick boxes and works from protocol.

"I don't feel well, it's obvious to me and everyone around me i'm ill, this is chronic and debilitating and I need professional help."

Answer : "You're fine, in our professional opinion (after a 45 minute chat in which we touched the tip of an iceberg) we can't offer you a diagnosis, or therapy or counselling, go private"

This experience and others I've had over the years has left me disillusioned with the UK and seriously considering going abroad for help.

Having said that, diet vitamin D excercise and socialising helps me no end, no medication, no entitled thoughts, no promise of any results. I live with it. I get on with it. It's not easy, nobody said life would be.

Talk it out work it out feel it out.

Change your bedding, switch up your home environment shuffle furniture around to help break the default state and keep things new, cut out toxic people. Listen to good music. Try your best to use CBT techniques to diminish unwanted negative thoughts.

It's not much however you can chip away at this. You can hold your head above water and tread it with effort. Hopefully you can access proper help.

Your pal, Jonnymcenroe

I hear you, depression can be a real uphill battle, and getting the right help isn't always straightforward, especially with those long waiting lists. It's frustrating when you finally get an appointment and it feels like they're just going through the motions.

 

[Alison]

I hear you, depression can be a real uphill battle, and getting the right help isn't always straightforward, especially with those long waiting lists. It's frustrating when you finally get an appointment and it feels like they're just going through the motions.

I was told the other day, during a massive anxiety attack, "this is a service for people in crisis, I'm hanging up now" some years ago I got similar, "this is a service for people in crisis, not bored housewives" For someone who's been section 3 times, I'm not sure I class as a bored housewife my first section was for 4 and a half months, during my stay a psychiatric nurse said, "what I think you have is Munchausen Syndrome, have you had enough now?" it's difficult getting taken seriously and getting the right support. I sometimes think there's a word or phrase that some people know about and if you know it every professional wants to help, unfortunately I haven't figured out what it is.

 

[dyna-ti]

Cycling is good to help break the depression. Even getting out for half an hour. Nowhere to go needed, just the act of turning the pedals starts the process of recovery.

What it is you are in a state of self pity(possibly not the best phrase) but what I think you need to do is actually make the effort even though that will be really difficult initiallly. But once you make that start, going on from then will become easier.

 

[Alison]

I've been doing The Conqueror challenges. I'm desperately trying to keep active, the challenges lead to a goal. Even if it's just a mile or two. I try to stay proactive and think po, but my brain does not always want to and it can be a struggle. Today, from work, I got a generous bonus, which has gone on the butchest bike part retail therapy ever so when all parts have arrived I'll hopefully have another thing to concentrate on.

I've had cycling bouts of depression and anxiety since I started school.

 

[Alison]

Po, should be positive

 

[Triumphtopy]

So sorry, I have suffered for some 45 years on and off, a plethora of shrinks, councillors, and medical professionals.. it’s up and down BUT getting out and exercising seems to help be it walking, gym, running or old mountain bikes.. I hope you find some relief…

 

[Alison]

Have you found, when you say you're trying to keep avtive/positive they are just not interested? You know you need help, but because you can do even a little you don't warrant it.

I shall try to keep as active as possible and work is my happy place

 

[ovlov440]

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I did 3 months of 3-4 times a week before lockdown.

Definitely noticed a positive difference!

Medication has its place, as long as you are made aware of the possible side effects and more importantly you have at least one person around you who knows about them to keep an eye on you.

I ended up on anti depressants in 2016. To give the abridged version I was not told (and was unaware) that one of the side effects can be an increase in suicidal thoughts. I came out the back of 2 such attempts and then being sectioned for my own protection. I am in a much better place now and life is very different.

It is important I believe that you have at least one confidant that knows everything and can be used as a 'sanity check'. Everyone is different obviously and not all situations are equal or the same. My 2 pennyworth.

Ade

 

[greencat]

I was told the other day, during a massive anxiety attack, "this is a service for people in crisis, I'm hanging up now" some years ago I got similar, "this is a service for people in crisis, not bored housewives" For someone who's been section 3 times, I'm not sure I class as a bored housewife my first section was for 4 and a half months, during my stay a psychiatric nurse said, "what I think you have is Munchausen Syndrome, have you had enough now?" it's difficult getting taken seriously and getting the right support. I sometimes think there's a word or phrase that some people know about and if you know it every professional wants to help, unfortunately I haven't figured out what it is.

With a few rare exceptions (screening of some cancers), women are appallingly underserved by the medical community.