Canti , V's or Disc brakes which is best??

Neil G":14jb4my9 said:
rojo":14jb4my9 said:
So alot a people like disc then. So rim brakes are no good anymore?

Nothing wrong with rim brakes in the dry at all....more than adequate unless your riding in the alps

My XT M739 v's on my Parkpre will lock the rear at virtually any speed and the front brake will lift the back wheel up with ease. I fail to see how having more power than this can help more, so they are as powerfull as discs with the added advantage of not fading on long decents.

This is all in the dry of course, in the wet then it's discs hands down.

Could always use Maguras ;) power and retro
 
Neil G":2kc1pryf said:
rojo":2kc1pryf said:
So alot a people like disc then. So rim brakes are no good anymore?

Nothing wrong with rim brakes in the dry at all....more than adequate unless your riding in the alps

Or really fast anywhere :shock:
 
Easy Rider said that he can easily lock up his wheel with rim brakes and that may be so, but with Disc brakes you can MODULATE them so much better-that is, to get them to give the maximum braking effect without locking them up, which slows you down much better with far more control than locking and skidding the wheel. Also, if your rims aren't true, the rim brake will be lumpy and not work very well, this doesn't happen with a disc, which stays true and smooth throughout it's life. As far as fade, the disc setup I have on my bike has never faded, even after a hot lap down Repack or Mt. Tam.
 
FairfaxPat":cm5h7kyy said:
Easy Rider said that he can easily lock up his wheel with rim brakes and that may be so, but with Disc brakes you can MODULATE them so much better-that is, to get them to give the maximum braking effect without locking them up, which slows you down much better with far more control than locking and skidding the wheel. Also, if your rims aren't true, the rim brake will be lumpy and not work very well, this doesn't happen with a disc, which stays true and smooth throughout it's life. As far as fade, the disc setup I have on my bike has never faded, even after a hot lap down Repack or Mt. Tam.

Fair point, but mine are set up with plenty of modulation, i like "squishy brakes", I just meant i could lock up the wheels if i wanted. I accept discs are good, but properly setup v's, cantis or mags are more than adequate for most users. I just wouldn't put discs on a retro steed, so for ease of setup for the average user, mags or v's are the way to go imo.
 
As this is a retrobike site and most older stuff runs cantis, set up correctly, they do the job perfectly well when its dry. Add water and UK mud, it all goes horribly wrong. The only way round this for me was to run a disk.
 
FairfaxPat":2skc766r said:
Easy Rider said that he can easily lock up his wheel with rim brakes and that may be so, but with Disc brakes you can MODULATE them so much better-that is, to get them to give the maximum braking effect without locking them up, which slows you down much better with far more control than locking and skidding the wheel. Also, if your rims aren't true, the rim brake will be lumpy and not work very well, this doesn't happen with a disc, which stays true and smooth throughout it's life. As far as fade, the disc setup I have on my bike has never faded, even after a hot lap down Repack or Mt. Tam.

Modulation? Surely that's what flexy retro frames are good for with Vs :D
 
I finally went to disc brakes when I built my new bike this year. I honestly will never go back.
Mine are m975 xtr discs and they were a little fiddly to get set up but now that they are they are flawless. Well worth the small weight penalty.
 
Mineral oil brakes dont seem to have done as well as expected.i dont think they have the power of hydraulic fluid,At least they dont seem to :?

The shimano stuff is taking a beating,they arent selling at all
 
dyna-ti":170cv9x1 said:
Mineral oil brakes dont seem to have done as well as expected.i dont think they have the power of hydraulic fluid,At least they dont seem to :?

The shimano stuff is taking a beating,they arent selling at all

I'd be interested to know why you deduced this.

I know plenty of people who are using Shimano disc brakes (XT and SLX)and to a man they reckon that they are among the best around.
I have Magura Marta SL's on two bikes and I can't fault them, for reliability or performance.

The power (or otherwise) isn't dependant on what brake fluid a particular system uses.....
 
I love disc. Partiularly cable disc. I use BB7 with Aivd Balck Ops levers. They are as good as hydro in terms of powder and modulation but a breez to set up. Maybe a little heavier.

I've tried many other V's, don't like them. Only ones I do like are Avid Arch Supreme's paired with Avid Ultimate's. They are as good as my cable disc, except they are more expensive...damn those vintage parts :D

I have used many canti's (and I do know how to set them up before anyone jumps on me). I just don't want to bother with the set up time vs performance ratio anymore.
 
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