And today I did......

Personally, im going to say this tubeless business is a complete waste of time, money and patience.
Just another 'latest thing' the industry to sell us.
And ,maybe not here but on other forums theres a myriad of issues being discussed.

Tearing tyres :? the mess, and the fact they leak air.

To save how many grams ?
Give it another year and they'll be plugging us tubes again. And no doubt the benefits of 26" tyres over 27 or 29"
I cant wait to hear that one :lol:
 
mmm values, latex and gaffer tape

vs several inner tubes, not had a puncture in two years, whilst running a lower volumes (which on road do feel a bit heavy, but gid off road)

wouldn't bother on the road mind you, not with modern road tyres
 
dyna-ti":3aek1kkt said:
Personally, im going to say this tubeless business is a complete waste of time, money and patience.
Just another 'latest thing' the industry to sell us....

I'm waiting for them to reinvent the clincher tubular.

Or preferably the Fleuss tyre. (abt 1890)

 
gmac123":2lzw2mc1 said:
mmm values, latex and gaffer tape
vs several inner tubes, not had a puncture in two years, whilst running a lower volumes (which on road do feel a bit heavy, but gid off road)
RobMac":2lzw2mc1 said:
I shouldn't crow but I don't get many punchers, maybe one or two a year.
You know what's gonna happen now :facepalm:
 
Yeah, tubes all round for me.
Have had one puncture in the last few years and that's a good few miles spread over a few machines. With the Pugsley and 1X1 running pretty low pressures over a lot of rocky stuff. If I was worried about weight then I wouldn't be riding old rigid steel frames everywhere anyway.
Modern tubes are pretty light, don't know what those ones that Brian used when he was a boy weigh though ;)

Jamie
 
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Finally a good idea has come forward, looks good FFTC but when will they hit the shops and what ridiculous price will they be ?
 
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When I read dyna's post about tubeless and he wondered what next I thought about posting, jokingly, that the next big thing would be "tubeless" tubulars with beads so they'd fit to a normal rim. Then Brian posted the very thing, the Fleuss tyre from 1890, how I imagined it. :shock:
Now FFTC posts a link to this re-invented next big thing. There's nowt new under the sun.

I've only got 1 tubeless wheel, a Lefty, I bought it already fitted. They claim tubeless is lighter, you can run lower pressures for grip but you need to renew the liquid sealant occasionally as it supposedly dries out. Unless you remove tyre from wheel and clean it out, a real pain in the erse, it's only going to get heavier as you top it up losing the lower weight advantage. But how would you remove the dried out sealant from one of these new-concept tubular tubeless tyres?

I'm like Jamie, prefer tubes, there's less faffing around and how long does it take to change a tube?
 
I don't remove the tyres, simply remove the valve core and add another 60g that way one a year. you just need a bottle with a nozzle or a simple injector / syringe thing. I've removed the dried out stuff once and ruined my thumbs in the process, never again.. so i guess they're getting progressively heavier :lol: :lol: :facepalm:

light they are not, the first tyres I got were not too bad, but the current editions of the very same tyre have thicker heavier sidewall, in honesty they weigh a scary amount. I don't carry a boot for tears, because it would take a bowie knife to cut these tyres and canny see it happening

i just like the fact that they have never punctured, especially on hill rocky hill paths when I've hit edges or felt stones clash with the rim, where I know I would have had a check / snake bit puncture. especially good on the bikepacking bike where the weight is higher and the chances of a check were higher

can't see tubs catching on mtbs or they would have years ago. the side ways / centrifugal force or the more skilled riders is probably too high. they'll never replace tubes either because the lower end of the market will never accept them

it ain't for retro bikes because it just ain't retro
 
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