Who Will You Vote For In The Coming General Election?

[KDM]

Lol at kdm. You speak with authority but you are clueless.

So its the headmasters fault if their school budget is cut is it? FFS grow a brain.

I would say the headmaster within school level, takes decisions for that school. Look, I understand during a general election it is easy for any opposition side to blame the top chair but if I may show why that is simplistic and selective.

You have your own large company say 10,000 staff. At every level you will have supervisors, branch managers, area managers, divisional managers, specialist services managers and at all points they have responsibility to run their areas, your approach is, don't worry about being responsible at any point because we will get away with blaming the big boss.

Same with health trusts, everyone said big government is too much, we need regional trusts, we got regional trusts with their own budgets, some trusts work okay and some are terrible so it is not reasonable to ask why one trust manages where another trust fails?

The cop out style is to say it's not the trusts fault with all those professionals paid to run it properly having failed to do so, so lets blame the government. The obvious point from that is, could the trusts benefit from coming back into central government, removing the trusts as these managers are obviously a waste of money and that organisational funding could be used better within the nhs

Sound bite politics is often used by socialists because they rarely ever get into positions of power and enjoy the freedom of the opposition without any of the responsibility of government.

 

[CTK]

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More glimpses of the obvious KDM. But fairplay for not getting pissed off at my grow a brain insult.

There was a head of a grammar school on the radio saying that he had 150 more pupils but his budget had stayed the same. If the standard of education in that school goes down whose fault is it?

Some NHS trusts do better than others of course. But if they all had better funding they would all do better. Nobody is suggesting wasting money.

As for your Socialist soundbite statement. Are you actually serious? Are you seriously saying that in this election Corbyn has been doing soundbite politics and May has had the substance?

 

[technodup]

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Some NHS trusts do better than others of course. But if they all had better funding they would all do better.

Utter nonsense.

In theory, maybe.

They could also do better if they saw fewer patients. Why is it always about the money? Surely fewer patients in hospitals in the first place is preferable to lots of patients being treated?

It's starting to sound like tax credits now. Tax people you shouldn't tax, churn it around the civil service and give a bit back. Everyone's a client of the state.

Accept current levels of ill people. Spend lots of money making them better. Everyone's a client of the state.

Can we not try to prevent them using the NHS in the first place? Less illness, fewer patients, less demand and less money. Everyone's a winner, no?

Not as easy as simply demanding more of someone else's money, granted.

 

[CTK]

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Utter nonsense.

In theory, maybe.

They could also do better if they saw fewer patients. Why is it always about the money? Surely fewer patients in hospitals in the first place is preferable to lots of patients being treated?

Can we not try to prevent them using the NHS in the first place? Less illness, fewer patients, less demand and less money. Everyone's a winner, no?

Not as easy as simply demanding more of someone else's money, granted.

LOL never mind the magic money tree, are you going to come up with a straight up magic tree to make people well are you?

It will take money to do what you propose.

 

[CTK]

Anyway exit polls look interesting...

 

[xxnick1975]

Looks like mays fcuked either way! Karma, gutless opportunist

 

[KDM]

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More glimpses of the obvious KDM. But fairplay for not getting pissed off at my grow a brain insult.

There was a head of a grammar school on the radio saying that he had 150 more pupils but his budget had stayed the same. If the standard of education in that school goes down whose fault is it?

Some NHS trusts do better than others of course. But if they all had better funding they would all do better. Nobody is suggesting wasting money.

As for your Socialist soundbite statement. Are you actually serious? Are you seriously saying that in this election Corbyn has been doing soundbite politics and May has had the substance?

Rarely get pissed off, people are entitled to strong views, I might be blunt in return to a rude poster from time to time

In regards to the grammar example you gave, actually it highlights my point. Unlike a state school, for a grammar to take in 150 extra pupils he didn't have the money for would make me question his ability as most heads now are little more than school business managers

The nhs, it's like a grade 2 listed building being maintained by dodgy builders. On year they will look at the costs to run for the repairs, put in a dodgy quote and even if they get all the money on their wish list, next year they will always be asking for even more, the nhs is a money pit and NO government has ever been able to stop that. May has been soundbiting yes but then so has Corbyn, tax the 5%, punish the richest companies, for the many not the few etc

 

[KDM]

Looks like mays fcuked either way! Karma, gutless opportunist

Kharma is like a ying and yang. I always thought and certainly seen in this forum, kharma was where good fortune had been had and they wanted to share their good fortune by passing it forward. Some it seems use it as a hate offering wishing unwell on others.

I prefer the former over the latter myself and generally find the type of kharma you wish on others is the one that suits your personality

 

[xxnick1975]

Thanks KDM, I must have an awful personality....

You are right, I should have said "bad karma"

As for wishing unwell on others...right wing, Brexit tories, there are no words!

and for the record check my posts for Karma if you want, I've given away plenty on here, far more than most

 

[highlandsflyer]

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Right wing, left wing. Let's swing!

I look forward to cooperating with everyone holding any views over the coming years.

One love.