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@brocklanders023 no, i haven't ridden it in ages and i saw some stuff about converting older bikes in gravel bikes, it turns out the 2007 clockwork might be spot on for a conversion, i'm in the process of building some wheels for it, gonna put 700x38 tyres if they fit the rear end, 35mm defo fits, i tried a customers wheel to see what i could get away with, got the bars etc ready, looking forward to doing it over the next couple of weeks.