Scottish IndepenDENce YES or NO?

YES or NO?, And What If DevoMax Was Offered?

  • Yes

    Votes: 20 39.2%
  • No

    Votes: 25 49.0%
  • DevoMax

    Votes: 8 15.7%
  • DGAF

    Votes: 5 9.8%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 1 2.0%

  • Total voters
    51
  • Poll closed .
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I thought Balmoral already was. After all it is full of mongrels, and at least one old horse spends time there, that Charles supposedly rides.

You can have a brace of Scots presenters in return for one Natasha Kaplinsky.
 
Re: Pointless historic rant

Bats":5td0c40s said:
You're an utterly tedious bugger, you know that. I point out a few basic truths - truths so basic i'm a little dismayed they need pointing out - and the best you can do is accuse me of being a fan of a well known wife beater.

And then you come out with some Captain Obvious grade stuff that changes nothing. Scotland has politicians!!!! Wow. Jury is still out on if they have grass.

"It will never change and we must all try to make the best of it."

So nothing will change, but we've got to try and make it change, but when people try to make it change, that's bad, so they should stop, so nothing will change. Tool.

Wow! I didn't know Wolfie beat his wife. The world's worse than I thought.
 
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Apparently after a five year wait you may get the Euro if Spain France and Germany vote you in. They have said though that you get membership only by accepting the Euro and without and of the current UK concessions so good luck with that...oh and the price of oil just went down again ooops not that threats of privatisation of BP will do you any favours as it will just kill any further investment in a notoriously difficult and declining oil field. Any thoughts on the effect of Fracking on the price of Brent Crude ? without an effective opposition it will be unnoposed in the rest of the UK.
Hopefully we can then get out of Europe as you guys are a significant source of pro Europe support.
 
Re: Scottish Indepence YES or NO?

No to independence.
No to more powers.
No to the Scottish Parliament.

Rule Britannia.

If only we had a leader of stature, a Thatcher, a Paisley, even a Blair in his prime it wouldn't have got to this. Salmond's lying through his teeth and nobody's got the balls to call him out on it. It's an embarrassment. I can see the ramifications being considerable, lengthy, expensive and possibly violent. Nice one Eck.
 
Re: Scottish Indepence YES or NO?

The spectre of departure from the EU, with the possibility of the southern taste for such magnifying into a referendum is yet one more reason a second SI referendum is likely at some point sooner rather than later, (given a NO result). We just can't continue to pick up the pieces for mistakes made down sarf.

New oil deposits are being discovered all the time, most of which are kept quiet due to commercial sensitivity, and are becoming much more accessible and viable thanks to technology moving forward. One of my longest term friends lectures in this area, and consults for several large oil companies. I tend to go with his assessment rather than that of politicos with agendas.

Techno, Techno, Techno..

At least two of your pleas are not foreseeable under the Union or otherwise. I would imagine if Scotland had a leader like Blair we would currently be seeing an ever stronger surge towards YES.
 
Re: Scottish Indepence YES or NO?

highlandsflyer":2q3r9211 said:
At least two of your pleas are not foreseeable under the Union or otherwise. I would imagine if Scotland had a leader like Blair we would currently be seeing an ever stronger surge towards YES.
Who cares about Scotland's leader? Political pygmies. I meant a UK leader with conviction and gravitas. No. No. No. I'm well aware I'll not get what I'd prefer but I didn't encourage this shite by voting for a Scottish Parliament. Look what good that's done.

This is a phoney campaign run by a phoney FM for a phoney version of independence. And yet many seem to believe we'll all be rich if we can just shake England off. I pity the fools, they're about to be disappointed. Either with a No, or the reality of a Yes.

If it's a No (as I expect) the Yessers are going to melt down, Facebook will implode amid accusations of vote-rigging etc etc, the BBC will be targeted. If it's a Yes the poor will still be poor next year and the year after that. They're being wilfully misled and I can see that backfiring down the line. The Yes campaign has been lies and halftruths but slick, the no side more truth but poorly delivered.

This whole farce has split the country, families and friends. If it's a no, for nothing. A yes, less than nothing. And lastly if it wasn't for the Weirs we wouldn't be having this debate. £3.5m (80%) of the Yes campaign budget came from them, little other support. The entire UK's future is being gambled on the back of one guy's chance win on the lottery. Brilliant.
 
Re: Scottish Indepence YES or NO?

technodup":2zbhuh4h said:
highlandsflyer":2zbhuh4h said:
lastly if it wasn't for the Weirs we wouldn't be having this debate. £3.5m (80%) of the Yes campaign budget came from them, little other support. The entire UK's future is being gambled on the back of one guy's chance win on the lottery. Brilliant.


I'm surprised no-one on the No campaign has mentioned taking the Lotto away - that's gotta be worth a few more No votes compared to dearer prices in the local child beating emporium ...sorry Asda.
 
Re: Scottish Indepence YES or NO?

technodup":1jcujtzi said:
If it's a no, for nothing. A yes, less than nothing.

Too true. I have already seen five people lose their jobs thanks to the uncertainty the referendum itself has created, the plug just pulled on several projects which they were to work on; millions of pounds of investment which has simply gone elsewhere, to countries which are not as unpredictable.

Who wants to invest millions in a place where those pushing for change threaten about a day of reckoning coming for businesses?
 
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