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Re: Retro MTB Touring.
Looking at dirt cheap two wheeled kiddie trailers on eBay or is this a bad idea? Thinking road.
Looking at dirt cheap two wheeled kiddie trailers on eBay or is this a bad idea? Thinking road.
lae":fcnx9vkk said:Another option is 'bikepacking' bags; basically bags that attach directly to your frame. They are most popular in the US for long-distance rides like the Tour Divide. Bikepack.pl seem to be the cheapest.
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PROS: By far the lightest system, much narrower than panniers so easy to ride singletrack, you can keep the weight towards the centre of the bike rather than hanging over the back or front wheel so they hardly affect handling.
CONS: More expensive - framebags £60+, seatpacks are £70+, handlebar slings and fuel tanks can be similarly expensive. Since it's a relatively new thing, they aren't easy to find secondhand.
I have used bikepack.pl bags (seatpack and fuel tank, DIY'ed my framebag) on a few overnighters and multi-day trips and found them to be very good: sleeping bag goes in a heavy-duty compression sack and gets strapped to the bars; tent and clothes go in the seatpack; more clothes, tools, food and cook-kit (i.e. the heavy stuff) go in the framebag to keep the weight central. The fuel tank bag is great for snacks and camera/phone.
If you're handy with a sewing machine, they are pretty easy to make. I did a framebag in a day. There are loads of guides on the internet.
lae":37t03wxv said:Another option is 'bikepacking' bags; basically bags that attach directly to your frame. They are most popular in the US for long-distance rides like the Tour Divide. Bikepack.pl seem to be the cheapest.
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PROS: By far the lightest system, much narrower than panniers so easy to ride singletrack, you can keep the weight towards the centre of the bike rather than hanging over the back or front wheel so they hardly affect handling.
CONS: More expensive - framebags £60+, seatpacks are £70+, handlebar slings and fuel tanks can be similarly expensive. Since it's a relatively new thing, they aren't easy to find secondhand.
I have used bikepack.pl bags (seatpack and fuel tank, DIY'ed my framebag) on a few overnighters and multi-day trips and found them to be very good: sleeping bag goes in a heavy-duty compression sack and gets strapped to the bars; tent and clothes go in the seatpack; more clothes, tools, food and cook-kit (i.e. the heavy stuff) go in the framebag to keep the weight central. The fuel tank bag is great for snacks and camera/phone.
If you're handy with a sewing machine, they are pretty easy to make. I did a framebag in a day. There are loads of guides on the internet.
chris667":17sr65tn said:It'll be ok if you're on the road, but forget it if you have to go off-road or onto a pavement. I have one you can have for not much (converted it with a big piece of ply as a load bed).
My framebag left space for one drink bottle in a side-entry cage, and had pockets for two 1ltr collapsible bottles. Enough for UK/most of Europe, but if you're touring in more remote locations I suppose you might want a second cage on the underside of the downtube.Woz":2cldgq9p said::? Where do the 2 x drink bottles go?