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[highlandsflyer]

Perhaps you could explain why you pose the question?

 

[bigmick]

Perhaps you could explain why you pose the question?

because you think people should be given jobs based on ethnic origin rather than merit

 

[highlandsflyer]

Do I ???

In what way did I suggest this?

 

[bigmick]

Do I ???

In what way did I suggest this?

"Given equal abilities, the candidate who fulfils the need for diversity should always be taken. Simples."

which would suggest to me that race/gender might swing it

 

[highlandsflyer]

Given equal abilities, why not take the candidate that fulfils the person specification more completely?

 

[bigmick]

Given equal abilities, why not take the candidate that fulfil the person specification more completely?

that is discrimination, why should that person lose out because they don't tick a box

 

[Neil]

Your insight is limited then, as there are many areas of society in which minorities are under-represented, and it should not be a case of waiting until things find a natural balance.

We either believe in equality and go about seeking it, or we sit on our hands and argue that the best 'man' for every job should be selected, from the perspective of the employer.

surely the best man for the job should be selected because they are the best for the job

not because the meet the criteria of the quotas set by lefty do good loonys

Given equal abilities, the candidate who fulfils the need for diversity should always be taken. Simples.

Beyond dogma, who's defined this "need" - I thought, and aren't we supposed to act and believe we're all equal? Equality won't be achieved by discrimination - either positive or negative -we'll just end up with the same kind of inequalities and lack of integration bolstered by an imperative, merely predicated on a different, albeit just as flawed, rationale.

 

[Chopper the ex Copper]

We all knew he was a loon but the do goody left wingers that run the place are more worried about employing people because of their skin tone than their integrity or aptitude.

Really?

I mean, really?

So pushing to make the force more representative is the direct reason for all this?

Really?

I guess it was a better idea to leave things as they were, with all the racism and corruption.

Yes, I could pm you the officers name and you could google it yourself.

I over simplified things in my rant(!) but the fundamental fact is this - merit, ability and integrity are very much secondary to skin colour, religion or sexual orientation. The Farces all gave targets to meet in recruiting from such minority groups, so when faced with selecting the finest candidate or avoiding a bollocking from the Hone Orifice you can guess which they choose.

And once in the job it continues - "youre only doing this because I'm gay", and then I get reported for homophobic bullying. No, I only did it because they bunked off work several hours early following a trading course. I could have formally disciplined them, but chose an informal chewing off instead. Not in all cases, but in a noteworthy proportion there are people here for reasons other than merit, and when they get found out they fall back on that as a defence knowing full well the Farces are more shit scared of complaints and negative press than they care about doin the right thing.

It's a deal seated, multicstransed and very complex situation and as long as successive governments meddle with recruitment and associated policies then it'll happen.

Let's get the best people regardless of what planet they come from, pay them a moderately decent wage, offer them prospects, but let's also not wet our pants when it's time to spank their bottoms.

 

[Neil]

Perhaps you could explain why you pose the question?

I'm guessing he did because you made the comment about the first black president?

 

[Neil]

Given equal abilities, why not take the candidate that fulfils the person specification more completely?

Because many find the "person specification" to be spurious, and not actually helping, but simply sustaining the "different" concept.