Pedo Hunter CH4!

[highlandsflyer]

I missed that part, that the sentences were suspended. I guess it is down to how they came to be interviewed by police, perhaps there is some balance to the 'entrapment' aspect.

Very doubtful: either evidence was gathered by a legally proper method or not. If not, then the case is thrown out. I've never of any middle ground.

If they received suspended sentences they were found guilty; so I am confident there was other evidence we are not necessarily party to.

 

[PurpleFrog]

I missed that part, that the sentences were suspended. I guess it is down to how they came to be interviewed by police, perhaps there is some balance to the 'entrapment' aspect.

Very doubtful: either evidence was gathered by a legally proper method or not. If not, then the case is thrown out. I've never of any middle ground.

If they received suspended sentences they were found guilty; so I am confident there was other evidence we are not necessarily party to.

My understanding is that the threshold for entrapment as misconduct is whether bait is used to make someone do something they normally wouldn't do. So whether there is other evidence shouldn't ever matter - it's whether the bait changed behaviour that counts. By example: if Officer Dibble leaves $100,000 lying in the alley and TC takes it, the case is invalid. But if he hears that TC is running unlicensed taxis and poses as a passenger, that's copacetic.

That's unless you mean that the other evidence regarded other cases, of course. In which case, I have no idea.

 

[rikcougar]

Ask yourself the question "If I were on the jury trying an accused Paedophile would I give him/her a fair trial"?

 

[secret_squirrel]

"If I were on the jury trying an accused Paedophile would I give him/her a fair trial"?

I would certainly hope so. The key point is "accused". Just consider if it was you with a false accusation or a worse a misinterpretation.

 

[highlandsflyer]

Oops!

 

[highlandsflyer]

My understanding is that the threshold for entrapment as misconduct is whether bait is used to make someone do something they normally wouldn't do. So whether there is other evidence shouldn't ever matter - it's whether the bait changed behaviour that counts. By example: if Officer Dibble leaves $100,000 lying in the alley and TC takes it, the case is invalid. But if he hears that TC is running unlicensed taxis and poses as a passenger, that's copacetic.

That's unless you mean that the other evidence regarded other cases, of course. In which case, I have no idea.

Interesting point.

My assumption is the 'hunter' brought the police attention and secondary evidence was gathered.

After all, there was no actual offence involving real victims in this case.

I still think it is a good thing the police were pointed in their direction.

In an ideal world by other means.

 

[legrandefromage]

Speaking as a victim, I thought it was going to be my word against him. I was scared of the impending court case up in Grimsby. I didn't want to get involved but the police were very supportive.

And then other victims came forward, I was shocked that it was close friends and friends from school, I was distressed to the point of suicide but manage to compose myself and go to court. I never took the stand. My statement and others helped put him away without a word in person from us. This was all going on with the threat of a News of the World exposure from the then girlfriend. She threatened me and my friend with letters and so on and was herself prosecuted by the police - still she never believed.

Its taken me about 20 years to come to terms with it. I now look at it coldly, no emotion anymore. there is no hate, no anger, just an emptiness. I dont like the term survivor, I'm still a victim, isolated as each case is different. Each perpetrator has their own excuses but they are all the same, cowards.

I feel strongly for other victims, recent news stories has brought it all back like a brick to the head. I cant escape, I hate the people involved, I feel anger towards them, hate, murder, yet towards my own perpetrator, still nothing. I can understand the high emotion involved with wanting to expose these people.

Just a word from the other side of the fence as it were.

*just to finish off, I consider myself damn lucky that I am still around. I accept each day as it is, new and full of potential, even if its just a 'nice' day, I am happy. And I am very grateful to have met my missus.

 

[PurpleFrog]

Damn - that some serious stones, fromage. And who were you going out with back then - Cruella De Ville? The Wicked Witch Of West?

 

[The History Man]

This kind of thing is not for the viewing pleasure of voyeur pond life.

I find it distasteful.

 

[legrandefromage]

Not my girlfriend at the time chaps, gf of the guy I helped put away.

You always hear how innocent the perpetrators are (until they are found guilty) but you rarely hear from the victims - it really, really fucks their lives up.