New Holdsworth 2015 Heritage range
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I suggest everyone boycotts Planet X for a while - until they stop damaging the Holdsworth heritage and allow us to accurately restore our real Holdsworths by allowing decal suppliers like Lloyds to offer bicycle restorers a service.
Better, anyway, to buy and old one and restore it - the restoration of the Cyclone I did last year ( despite Planet X) didn't cost as much as it would to buy their reproduction frame and parts.......
Better, anyway, to buy and old one and restore it - the restoration of the Cyclone I did last year ( despite Planet X) didn't cost as much as it would to buy their reproduction frame and parts.......
Last year when I took my frame to be repainted by Argos in bristol - they told me that they couldn't supply decals because inturn, H Lloyds had been stopped s up plying them by Planet X the new owner of the brand. My bike is complete - I found another way but it's a real shame. I even phoned Planet X with no result.....
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I smell BS.
It's a long time since I had anything to do with this, but Trade Mark law and Intellectual Property rights prevent a manufacturer from using a brand name or something very similar on a different or inferior product.
I suspect it is in there somewhere, but you'd have to dig pretty deep to find a clause that prevents someone reproducing graphics used by a brand, that's not really what the law is there for. Plus, if the frame being refinished is a Holdsworth, then PX could not claim infringement, as the frame could be proven to be a Holdsworth. If you were trying to pass off a BSO as a Holdsworth, they would have a valid claim, but even then the law is not really there to prevent a one off, it is there to stop one manufacturer ripping off anothers designs, logos and products.
I suspect that PX are banking on frightening off a small firm / sole trader like H Lloyd with threats, knowing that the smaller company will not risk testing the larger companys mettle.
I smell BS.
It's a long time since I had anything to do with this, but Trade Mark law and Intellectual Property rights prevent a manufacturer from using a brand name or something very similar on a different or inferior product.
I suspect it is in there somewhere, but you'd have to dig pretty deep to find a clause that prevents someone reproducing graphics used by a brand, that's not really what the law is there for. Plus, if the frame being refinished is a Holdsworth, then PX could not claim infringement, as the frame could be proven to be a Holdsworth. If you were trying to pass off a BSO as a Holdsworth, they would have a valid claim, but even then the law is not really there to prevent a one off, it is there to stop one manufacturer ripping off anothers designs, logos and products.
I suspect that PX are banking on frightening off a small firm / sole trader like H Lloyd with threats, knowing that the smaller company will not risk testing the larger companys mettle.
Skynet
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@kvs He was talking about getting decals for an old frame, no longer produced. I've not heard of, for example, Colnago stopping people creating and selling decals for their old frames. It would be different if Planet X offered replacement decals.
Assuming it's true then I'd imagine that's it Neil.
Assuming it's true then I'd imagine that's it Neil.
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Just been on H Lloyd's web site and this is what is on his list.
FOLLOWING THE ACQUISITION OF THE HOLDSWORTH NAME BY
PLANET-X IN 2014 H LLOYD CYCLES ARE NO LONGER ABLE TO
SUPPLY DECALS OR HEADBADGES FOR HOLDSWORTH. Effective from
26th June 2014 please contact Panet-x directly if you require decals.
Just been on H Lloyd's web site and this is what is on his list.
FOLLOWING THE ACQUISITION OF THE HOLDSWORTH NAME BY
PLANET-X IN 2014 H LLOYD CYCLES ARE NO LONGER ABLE TO
SUPPLY DECALS OR HEADBADGES FOR HOLDSWORTH. Effective from
26th June 2014 please contact Panet-x directly if you require decals.
