new car chat

[denco.h1e]

The 2000s jazz 5 speed manuals suffer with gearbox failure but can be reconditioned for a few hundred pound, not sure on the later models

Guess I was lucky. Had a 2002 Jazz as a second car. Sold it in 2013 with 70,000m on the clock and during that time it never missed a beat or gave any trouble. The boot space was so useful for carrying big/odd-shaped loads and it swallowed MTBs.

 

[minor_LEGEND]

Guess I was lucky. Had a 2002 Jazz as a second car. Sold it in 2013 with 70,000m on the clock and during that time it never missed a beat or gave any trouble. The boot space was so useful for carrying big/odd-shaped loads and it swallowed MTBs.

I would not disgree. I am involved in Honda enthusiast circles. I've never heard any issues about the gearboxes tbh. Hondas can suffer soft bearings in g/boxes, usually manifests as a noisy input shaft (confused with noisy thrust bearing) but they still drive on & on with it.
My Accord is a proper soldier, approaching 200k & feels like new (almost). I shall probably never replace it. It's from the era of peak motoring, when cars were made to last & still feel like I am in control, not the traction control/electric steering. 2003.

So many hateful cars out there now. All German stuff is terrible & overrated imo.

 

[FluffyChicken]

A lot of this is way to much for someone with no interest.

Basically, is it comfy, easy to park, cheap to fuel/charge, fit all me stuff in.

Cheap to service.

VW will always be worst off with faults as they dominate the sales market with Ford fuat behind them, then Audi (just more VW with added expense) in 3rd.
Then a jump to BMW/Toyota and Kia.

So if Kia are not getting a bad rep for niggles etc go Kia.

Honestly I quite like my Skoda, cheap for what you get, the 1.4 Petrol Octavia mk3 DSG is fast enough and nippy and get me 40-45 mpg on my easier commute from work and 30ish on my stop start crawl takes ages commute in to work (all of 4-10 miles depending on route).
Motorway/or longer country runs hit 50+mpg with a top box on.
It has loads of room for everything.
The in-laws Fabia's just work too and plod along (though this is not so comfy as it it a 1.4DSG vRS).
I was very surprised by the 1L Fabia we had to drive (a few years old) as the was nice to drive, much better than our 1L Peugeot thing. Gearbox was easy, was pretty nippy too.

Best car was still our old 1.6 Picasso as you didn't give a shit about it and could fit the word in it.
Shite to drive, like the Peugeot. Got leg ach from changing gears.

No idea on the SUVs as I wouldn't like them as a town car.

 

[legrandefromage]

Don't Google DSG or Honda Jazz /Fit gearbox problems then

Don’t do it.

Stop that typing!

 

[FluffyChicken]

Never look for P engineer position..

But to be honest the Fabia has had no problems, and was the last vRS.

My Octavia just has the P engineer senaor thing to ignore.


But being in the the no 1 and no 3 selling companies cars in th UK, you're going to get far more hits, not including Skoda... which is somewhat lower down the list.

I've seen plenty of gearboxes go (even if cheaper to replace) ;-)


Anyway, not a problem for EVs which is the current future...
(or buying XK/etypes and Healey cheap as all the collectors are dying out and being replaced by Escort RS/Nova classic cars buyers..)