new car chat

[denco.h1e]

The 2000s jazz 5 speed manuals suffer with gearbox failure but can be reconditioned for a few hundred pound, not sure on the later models

Guess I was lucky. Had a 2002 Jazz as a second car. Sold it in 2013 with 70,000m on the clock and during that time it never missed a beat or gave any trouble. The boot space was so useful for carrying big/odd-shaped loads and it swallowed MTBs.

 

[minor_LEGEND]

Guess I was lucky. Had a 2002 Jazz as a second car. Sold it in 2013 with 70,000m on the clock and during that time it never missed a beat or gave any trouble. The boot space was so useful for carrying big/odd-shaped loads and it swallowed MTBs.

I would not disgree. I am involved in Honda enthusiast circles. I've never heard any issues about the gearboxes tbh. Hondas can suffer soft bearings in g/boxes, usually manifests as a noisy input shaft (confused with noisy thrust bearing) but they still drive on & on with it.
My Accord is a proper soldier, approaching 200k & feels like new (almost). I shall probably never replace it. It's from the era of peak motoring, when cars were made to last & still feel like I am in control, not the traction control/electric steering. 2003.

So many hateful cars out there now. All German stuff is terrible & overrated imo.

 

[FluffyChicken]

A lot of this is way to much for someone with no interest.

Basically, is it comfy, easy to park, cheap to fuel/charge, fit all me stuff in.

Cheap to service.

VW will always be worst off with faults as they dominate the sales market with Ford fuat behind them, then Audi (just more VW with added expense) in 3rd.
Then a jump to BMW/Toyota and Kia.

So if Kia are not getting a bad rep for niggles etc go Kia.

Honestly I quite like my Skoda, cheap for what you get, the 1.4 Petrol Octavia mk3 DSG is fast enough and nippy and get me 40-45 mpg on my easier commute from work and 30ish on my stop start crawl takes ages commute in to work (all of 4-10 miles depending on route).
Motorway/or longer country runs hit 50+mpg with a top box on.
It has loads of room for everything.
The in-laws Fabia's just work too and plod along (though this is not so comfy as it it a 1.4DSG vRS).
I was very surprised by the 1L Fabia we had to drive (a few years old) as the was nice to drive, much better than our 1L Peugeot thing. Gearbox was easy, was pretty nippy too.

Best car was still our old 1.6 Picasso as you didn't give a shit about it and could fit the word in it.
Shite to drive, like the Peugeot. Got leg ach from changing gears.

No idea on the SUVs as I wouldn't like them as a town car.

 

[legrandefromage]

Don't Google DSG or Honda Jazz /Fit gearbox problems then

Don’t do it.

Stop that typing!

 

[FluffyChicken]

Never look for P engineer position..

But to be honest the Fabia has had no problems, and was the last vRS.

My Octavia just has the P engineer senaor thing to ignore.


But being in the the no 1 and no 3 selling companies cars in th UK, you're going to get far more hits, not including Skoda... which is somewhat lower down the list.

I've seen plenty of gearboxes go (even if cheaper to replace) ;-)


Anyway, not a problem for EVs which is the current future...
(or buying XK/etypes and Healey cheap as all the collectors are dying out and being replaced by Escort RS/Nova classic cars buyers..)

 

[videojetman]

I had a Kia exceed for 3 years, never went wrong, good car. But nothing exciting.
Handed it back in April and bought a 2017 bmw 3 series with 5800 miles on the clock.
The bmw hasn’t disappointed, no regrets.

 

[Twozaskars]

We have a Ceed, 71plate 1.0 petrol. It's ok but nothing exciting. Has an on/off ignition gremlin when you work it hard but just need to stick a new coil pack on. Bought it to replace our 2017 Fiesta ST-Line 1.0 which was a brilliant little car. Owned that for 6 years and 65k. We've had a 2011 Clio 1.2 for over 4 1/2 years now that's had a spring and some indicator bulbs that faded.
One of my favourite cars was a Scenic 1.5dci. 7 years ownership and many happy journeys to the south of France to see in laws etc, it had all the usual faults they're known for but we knew it would when we bought it and budgeted accordingly. Also run a 1985 Land Rover One-Ten which is awful in almost every way. But we like it so that's ok.
But back on topic - Kia Ceed is a great choice for someone with no interest in cars.

 

[novocaine]

I think we are going Skoda. If I can find a dealer semi locally that has what we want in.
we looked at Kia, but got put off by the sea of dead one's sat outside the dealers waiting for revival at the hands of the mad scientist behind the garage door. This is obviously just our experience though.

we've been around pretty much all dealers in the past month and what I can say is that everything is now a sodding SUV. I know why they've gone this way (easier to EV with a dropped floor), but they all handle like an SUV still and without the battery weight it only get's worse as the centre of gravity heads towards the sky. Smaller engines are in too, which I'm fine with as long as they can pull the weight of the car, but a 1 litre in a 2 ton vehicle isn't going to be great even with the massive turbo strapped to it. We are looking at the 1.5TSI range, similar power figure but with twice the torque and interestingly very similar economy figures. possibly a mild hybrid but we shall see. I think something like a Scala as we need the space but not the height (and SUV isn't any bigger than a hatchback inside).

to be honest, they all look the same these days and car people aren't lusting after a mid price family box, so they are all getting looked after about as badly too.

 

[FluffyChicken]

Scala, that's the one between the
Fabia and Octavia in size iirc.
I think thats another we had a few months back for two day while they MOT the car (a new current year Scala)

It is pretty much the same as our 2017 Octavia (even the person giving us the keys said that) , but with the engine that reduces the cylinders when need, hence the.. .1cc bump from a 1.4 More than enough for the larger Octavia.
You do get the new all computer display. I think they kept button and dials for the common stuff to.
Other than that pretty much the same when we used it, just more compact.

It was nice, if we didn't need the larger boot it would be something we'd consider.

 

[Iwasgoodonce]

I hope @thom04 doesn’t mind me resurrecting this thread. I’m in the market for a new car (2nd hand) for the first time in 14 years I think? The faithful friend Nissan X-Trail somehow managed to lose its oil without once alerting us until the engine started knocking anyway.
I could pay to get a new engine as I really like the old thing but I have been outvoted.
We went around a few dealerships on Saturday. The Hyundai place was rubbish. Not much actual information on the window, just a QR code that didn’t work with my Nokia 6230i. The Kia place was much better. Helpful but not pushy. They had a Sportage that I liked. Spendy but towards the top of the range.
Petrol engine. I don’t think diesel is the thing anymore. Trouble is, we wanted a hybrid at least. The next garage on our list was Suzuki.
Never had one but always sort of liked their mini 4 x 4s (shhhhhh). A mild hybrid Vitara caught the eye. Slight downer is that it’s two wheel drive but whilst I have a work vehicle I do have a 4 x 4. The Vitara is a higher end model plus it is an auto.

Anyone had one? Reviews tend towards the positive. We do t do a lot of miles, maybe 5000 a year? Reliable is what we want.