kaiser said:tell me what a new bike has to do/be to sell and be a success in your opinion?
tintin40":1n510gxn said:Nothing. I wouldn't cycle if all had to ride are moderns. I'm very lucky to have taken up MTBing in the late 80's till early 90's
Anthony":2nc8scm4 said:I haven't seen those, but actually the 29er concept is much more of a piece with the Breezer heritage than a kick-ass 26er.kaiser":2nc8scm4 said:Breezer has some 29ers coming out too, with some new ideas on geometry.
My image of Joe Breeze is of somebody who rides fast, but in a gentle way. Somehow I don't picture Joe Breeze kicking anybody's ass except through speed.
[/quote]tintin40":4nu47cul said:kaiser said:tell me what a new bike has to do/be to sell and be a success in your opinion?
Nothing. I wouldn't cycle if all had to ride are moderns. I'm very lucky to have taken up MTBing in the late 80's till early 90's
Amd now to have found this site so that i can relive those wonderful times
tintin40 is a true retrobiker and I am not, but I respect him for it. I once saw him snake off a treacherous trail (lateral sloping roots under wet leaves) and as he crashed he threw himself into a tree rather than damage his bike. I've never seen anybody else do that. And he hurt his head and he is too retro to wear a helmet. So I understand him saying what he says.Andy R":25my8ixt said:I realise that every one of us is different, and will have different views on just about anything - however, I (like you) started riding mountain bikes in the late eighties (I was a lot older than you were though ) and, like you, had some great times then - I was young(ish) and racing and getting some reasonable results. What was there not to like?tintin40":25my8ixt said:I wouldn't cycle if all had to ride are moderns. I'm very lucky to have taken up MTBing in the late 80's till early 90's
But that was then and this is now (as my kids used to say :roll: ) and, although I still have my bikes from back then, I can't unfortunately re-create that time simply by riding only them. In fact, I think that one of the best things about having ridden for twenty-odd years is seeing new ideas and technologies help the bike and riding experience to evolve and improve.
So, although some might think that by mainly riding a rigid, steel framed singlespeed I'm kind of contradicting myself, I'm very open to any and all new developments in the mtb world.
I ride what some might see as a fairly primitive bike because, for some reason, it suits me - physically, emotionally, I really don't know why. However, I believe that for an old fart I still ride it pretty well.
But, if my ideal bike wasn't available to me then I'd ride anything (modern or old), rather than not ride at all. Ultimately, for me, the ride is more important than the bike.
[/quote][/quote]kaiser":1wmp35g1 said:tintin40":1wmp35g1 said:kaiser said:tell me what a new bike has to do/be to sell and be a success in your opinion?
Nothing. I wouldn't cycle if all had to ride are moderns. I'm very lucky to have taken up MTBing in the late 80's till early 90's
Amd now to have found this site so that i can relive those wonderful times
You wouldn't cycle if all you had to ride was a modern? Really?
Anthony":w09a3wwo said:tintin40 is a true retrobiker and I am not, but I respect him for it. I once saw him snake off a treacherous trail (lateral sloping roots under wet leaves) and as he crashed he threw himself into a tree rather than damage his bike. I've never seen anybody else do that. And he hurt his head and he is too retro to wear a helmet. So I understand him saying what he says.
And as for your bike being primitive, I expect it has at least Vs if not discs, spd pedals, grippy modern tyres and I know it is tubeless cos you told me so. All adds up to quite a lot of benefits from technological progress there, and yet still preserving the ethos of retro biking in that you find it well suited to the kind of riding you did BITD and still do now.
Which is hopefully what Joe Breeze is doing as well.
[/quote][/quote][/quote]tintin40":ghi8csmz said:kaiser":ghi8csmz said:tintin40":ghi8csmz said:kaiser said:tell me what a new bike has to do/be to sell and be a success in your opinion?
Nothing. I wouldn't cycle if all had to ride are moderns. I'm very lucky to have taken up MTBing in the late 80's till early 90's
Amd now to have found this site so that i can relive those wonderful times
You wouldn't cycle if all you had to ride was a modern? Really?
100% honest. I hate bumping into moderns when out in the Surrey Downs. Those that ride with me now think i'm Mr Angry of mtbing.