Musson Wheel Trueing Stand

JoeH

Retro Guru
Won this for £12.64 all inclusive of postage.

Have I done a good thing?
Are these anygood? In comparison to the park ts2

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/167234062569

Can they be taken to the next level? Dial gauges?

In the world of DIY loudspeakers, they can often be amazing and beat a commercial design costing multiple times more. Is it the same in the wheel trueing world?
 
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Hi Joe

That is well worth £12, it looks very well made, too. Not worth your time and effort to try and make one for less.

I'd suggest buying (online through his site, it's probably still less than £20) Roger Musson's book and read it thoroughly; this will explain not only how to build wheels but why he designed the stand and its advantages over expensive, commercially-available ones. You'll also learn that wheelbuilding is not magical, secret and difficult but is just a logical and iterative process.

Hopefully you'll also realise that your new stand is already at the right level and doesn't need upgrading (clue from the book: you are just guaging wheel truth, roundness etc. it doesn't need measuring. Dial guages just make stands look flash and give an image of accuracy that's more than achievable - and quicker to use - with what you have there).

Possibly the only minor improvement would be to paint the stand white and the guages black for contrast, as suggested by Roger.

Good luck with wheelbuilding, let us know how you get on.

Kevin.
 
In terms of painting it white. What's the deal - the whole stand or just the base?

Any of you guys bought his new book? Wonder if the stand design stays the same.
 
you are just guaging wheel truth, roundness etc. it doesn't need measuring. Dial guages just make stands look flash and give an image of accuracy that's more than achievable

Dial gauges 🤣. You need to be more analogue.....thats what the bit of wood at the bottom is for!

^^
Dial gauges are only essential if you always wear a Park branded blue t- shirt on your youtube channel in front of the big Park toolboard!😉

The human eye is accurate enough, and if your eyes are no good, a dial gauge is still a chocolate teapot.

Of course if you are charging for your time, you need to convince your customers you are more akin to a Surgeon than a Burger Flipper😁
 
In terms of painting it white. What's the deal - the whole stand or just the base?

Any of you guys bought his new book? Wonder if the stand design stays the same.
Just buy the book, Joe, it's not much in the big scheme of things and it's a nice way of saying thanks to Roger (I've no connection to him). Yes, the updates may just include new hub types etc and thus not be very relevant to Retrobikers but the basic info about wheel-building will still be there and this what you need.

Kevin.
 
Just a couple of questions/suggestions
Does it accommodate front and rear wheels with significantly different OLDs?
A centering tool is a useful addition. Yes, you can check centrering by flipping the wheel to check, but the tool is a nice-to-have
 
Message from Roger Musson himself,
"You did well with the ebay stand. Ideally it should be white to give good contrast at the truing reference points. Also, the jaws where the hub locates look a little thin, they need to be thicker to make locating the hub easier. There's no need for dial gauges, I used to work in precision engineering but see zero need for them when building a wheel. Tell your Retro mates that the dimensions for the stand design in the new book are tweaked slightly so that it can true wheels when the wheel diameter is increased by having big fat tubeless tyres installed, it also now caters for super wide fatbike hubs, non of this applies to retro guys. I still use the exact same stand shown in the book, there's nothing better out there! Tell them to use the new spoke length calculator, it's now free for everyone to use (previously password protected for book users)."
 
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