I am looking for another rim brake frame "just in case" - ideally something "modernish"... The look 585 came out about the same time as my pinarello Paris carbon (mid 00s) and I think I almost got the look instead at the time. It's a little older than I was thinking of but I have found a couple of decent 585's for sale at reasonable prices, just wondering if anyone has ridden one and what you think?