KARMA Ti frame - Photo's added (and consolation prizes too)

[pete_mcc]

...though it has to be said, why would they?

Ok, lets ignore the fact that a highly experienced professional builder of Ti bikes and a qualified welder of Ti both say, on this thread, that the rewelding of existing welds on this frame would be a bad idea. Lets say I believe you (a person with experience of welding a steel frame in 1979 and a friend of engineers in brown coats) that this can be rewelded.

Now lets look at the bike: A cracked down tube, a cracked BB, a cracked seatstay. That all adds up to a bike that was either badly made or harshly ridden. So, what is the likelihood of all the other tubes and welds on this bike collapsing? Probably nearer 100% than 0%, add that to the potential for existing rewelds to fail and that a lot of percentage going on.

I don't deny that its fun to offer up this piece of scrap metal to anyone for free and that its a lovely gesture but the winner should not be under any misconception that if they won this they would have a bike that they could ride. They should listen to the voice of experts on here, not that of enthusiasts and armchair engineers.

Sure, the winner will get what used to be a titanium frame for next to nothing but I just hope that they are inventive and think of something novel to do with it - maybe a windchime, a workseat (like someone did with a GT), a wall-hanger, a lightweight rolling pin.

 

[theredchili]

I've been watching this thread with interest,and agree it is not worth the risk of repairing it, then it occurred to me that I have just the wall Space here at FoD City Cycles top secret Bike Storage facility and with that in mind

can I too have a number please

 

[elite504]

I knew a man who could weld paper.

Just saying. .

 

[We_are_Stevo]

I really, REALLY hope that reference to an 'armchair engineer' wasn't directed at me??

If it was I shall be running another compo to see who can give me the correct definition for the TLA 'ART...' :evil:

...and once again I beg to differ - there is NO oxidisation on the welds in the BB area, they are as shiny as the day they were engineered!

If I can build motorcycle frames I can then ride at 120+ mph and still be here 30+ years later to bragg about it I like to think I learned something at College when I was doing my Diploma??

There is NO magic black art to building a bicycle frame, and if I get any more p*ssed off I shall be investing in a Columbus Max tubeset and some Nervex lugs to prove my point!

Any skill is learned and you are only as good as you are taught - there has to be a certain aptitude for learning and I have always had a natural enthusiasm for engineering coming from a long line of them as I do, but ANYONE can do it if they put their mind to it and keep it up.

The important thing to remember is you never stop learning - if you think you know it all, you know f*ck all...:roll:

 

[We_are_Stevo]

I knew a man who could weld paper.

Just saying. .

...a man after my own heart!

 

[sylus]

If it's free..and I know what it is..pardon me for not pulling out

ner na ner ner ner


come on guys this is actually karma..what the owner does with it afterwards is the owners choice

lets please not kill karma threads by the anal pc correctness that is currently making most of us sick in real life


it's karma..it's been described correctly with all it's faults..and it's free

some need to keep that in mind ...take a step or two back and let the thread run without inteference to stay within the karma way of doing things

 

[i-am-iron-man]

Looks easier to repair than my first / last Ti MTB frame: a beautiful and featherweight Raleigh RSP with wishbone stays and a team paint-job.

Price was great but the bike was dead on arrival: serious crash damage, head-tube at a jaunty angle, wrinkles on the top and downtubes

I could get that repaired (well, I say me, I mean: I can get someone else to do it)
Can you number me up please?

 

[dendy]

...and once again I beg to differ - there is NO oxidisation on the welds in the BB area, they are as shiny as the day they were engineered!

Being shiny as the day has no baring over welds being oxidised/ contaminated. You can see in the pics that the welds have an appearance of contamination due to some gas/ prep issue..

Anyhow, enough from me, like I said it is a nice offer just have issues over it's safety.

 

[johnnypie13]

karma

well a bit of chewing gum and some gaffer tape and a prayer to whichever god you pray to and then head to the biggest downhill you can find that should test the frame properly

Okay only joking

please people remember this is free Steve is giving it away for nothing and as such its very nice of him to do so what somebody does with it afterwards is up to them and at their own risk

 

[billy]

oooooohh

Oooohh!! a karma Ti stem!! put me in the hat please! Perhaps we should set up a karma thread where the takers are expected to put up something karma themselves? like a free-lucky-dip-swap-shop-thing-a-me-jig?