Is Retro really the way forward!? Your thoughts

dyna-ti":10m8j4sl said:
Sorry,wasn't trying to put you off :oops:
Feel free to continue.... :D


...we was comin up alongside a German frigate in the dead of night. One of my chums, Barry his name was, had told me of the lethal modern weapons they were usin, and we only had our old retro...
 
dyna-ti":2t38jtml said:
Danone":2t38jtml said:
Sorry, you're right Dyna-Ti it's typical of of one to post such thread, i'm sure it's been asked many times.

I didn't expect a reply from someone who's probably answered that question a million times in the past... :LOL:

The last time i was so involved in bikes was about 15 years ago when i was 10-12 years old until i became interested in other things... :roll: i've not long got back into biking so i've got a lot to catch up on :)

Sorry,wasn't trying to put you off :oops:
Feel free to continue.... :D

You know you have been on this site to much and to long when you see the same threads. Perhaps time to stay away for 6 months. Would be like doing 'cold Turkey' :LOL:
 
BoyBurning":22yu5tkg said:
dyna-ti":22yu5tkg said:
Sorry,wasn't trying to put you off :oops:
Feel free to continue.... :D
...we was comin up alongside a German frigate in the dead of night. One of my chums, Barry his name was, had told me of the lethal modern weapons they were usin, and we only had our old retro...
"Aye, he were there, son, he were there..."
 
Cycling is very hard to compare to other 'things' and analogies are useless.

Cars have far more legislation than bikes as well as all those other 'things' we like to compare.

You can do what you do today on a 10 - 20 - 30 - 40 year old bicycle without fear of death or loss of limb, which is go for a ride and enjoy yourself - thats what the cycle industry fears and has to counteract with endless 'new' models, upgrades and more extreme riding.

New bikes are more comfortable but are also rather benign. They are also cost a substantial amount of money if you want something decent (as it has always been) whereas cars have got better and better value.
 
Well I have a brand new Landrover and a 40 year old Landrover, undoubtably the modern one is more comfortable, quicker, more efficient,more practical.
But at the end of the day'Old Blue is the one that puts the biggest grin on my face.

I think the same for bikes, I have a modern one to thrash hard on todays modern trails, but its the Retro's that put's the biggest smile on my face.

In another ten years, todays bikes will be Retro and people will still look back at them and say there not as good as modern bikes !

At the end of the Day, we all love bikes, some you need more skill to ride than others, so long as people are having fun out there is all that matters :D
 
I've been reading, as I'm sure some of you are aware, about Klunking recently and discovering the roots of our sport. While I'm busy trying to fight off the urge to re-mortgage the house to get something that used to cost $20, I've been thinking. Why the hell WOULD I want something that old and, fundamentally, that less able than even my Zaskar should be (excluding my utter lack of skill)? Ultimatley - because it's fun.

I think I've finally reaslised that's what it's always been about for me; ever since I had my first hand me down bike as a nipper I've loved two wheels and the fun that you can have on them.

My brother popped past the other day on his "didn't like to ask how many thousand pound" Benotto carbon road bike the other day. Not my cup of tea (although it's v. pretty) because I've never been in to road bikes really, but he loves it and takes great pleasure from riding it so - cool.

The pretty much unique thing about bikes, as I'm sure has been pointed out before, is that they are almost wholly dependant on the rider. A terrible driver in a Ferrari would blast a good driver in a banger EVERY time, whereas a terrible rider on a £8K full suspension bike would be blasted by a good rider on a BSO every time (and yes, I do agree with LGF that analogies are relatively limited).

It's all so dependant on how you want to ride, where you want to ride and how able you are to ride it that it's almost irrelevant to talk about relative differences in kit, imo. :) You've got 20mm more suspension travel? Does that make a difference if you happen to be cruising and enjoying the landscape you're riding through on a sunny day?

Ultimately, as long as it's got two wheels and you can have a blast and enjoy it who cares, old or new?
 
i really appreciate my retro bike as it was so cheap to put together. as others are saying you need to spend crazy money to buy a similar specced modern incarnation (crazy to me anyway) and i doubt the performance is that much better in the real world (and who cares for £700 difference).

anyway, the thing that makes me chuckle about "modern" bikes is there seems to be a trend towards longer and longer travel suspension in the mainstream market. i regularly see people riding £XXXX's bikes with 160mm suspension plus along the canal towpath.

hopefully our old steel "retro" bikes will still be going strong in 10-15 years.
 
Some of my favourite bikes I've built have been spares bin ones and not expensive at all.

At the end of the day no amount of technology etc. can make a bad rider good.
 
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