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MattiThundrrr
Kona Fan
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https://www.retrobike.co.uk/threads/40’s-schwinn-dx-klunker-build.464240/page-18#post-3443433
In what way does that blog post suggest that it is a bad idea to invert the bars?
As far as I'm concerned, regarding fashion, that has always been a thing. People have sacrificed comfort in the pursuit of a certain look, be it ultra aggressive slammed positions, or people converting their bikes to singlespeed because they want that clean look. Fashion even dictates component choices in most cases, the return to classic componentry on modern bikes is as much a fashion statement as it is an appreciation for older tech.
I am a fan of everything alternative within bicycling, yes. Because there's creativity and experimentation which is ultimately a positive thing. People are repurposing older bikes, and yes often they're dictated by trends. For example you see a bunch of people fitting exceptionally large tyres in old MTB frames because it looks utterly brutal, but why is it a bad thing if they enjoy tinkering with the bikes and use them? I of course think practicality is important, and making decisions to set up a bike a certain way and then it being uncomfortable to ride is of course silly. But as someone who frequents the circles of xbike enthusiasts, who are proud of this sort of bastardery, I can tell you that they definitely do ride their bikes - and they ride more than the majority of leather saddle patina sniffers who wouldn't even dare take their bike outside on a damp day.
The guy with that Surly uses it daily, and goes on great adventures. No complaints about comfort. Also, since when were bars at saddle height a bad thing? That's always been my go to for comfort. But I suppose I best assess historical documents to determine what feels right for me
?Also Rob voiced some concerns in regards to how the bars set up inverted could apply some undue pressure on the hands, I believe that was it. I made it clear to him that should it be uncomfortable I'd probably turn them 'the right way up', the jury is still out as I'm missing some parts to take the CC on long trips.
Love you Woz
@novocaine
I'm sure you can appreciate the bold tyre choices on this Cross Check
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I'm sure you can appreciate the bold tyre choices on this Cross Check
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Guinessisgoodforyou
rBotM Winner
I think @Woz is referring to the grip portion being parallel with the ground, rather than angled to meet the wrist. Obviously varies. I did voice concern about the weight placed on the wrists in response to the hand comfort issue you mentioned. But you did indeed say that you would put them the "right" way up should you get pain.In what way does that blog post suggest that it is a bad idea to invert the bars?
As far as I'm concerned, regarding fashion, that has always been a thing. People have sacrificed comfort in the pursuit of a certain look, be it ultra aggressive slammed positions, or people converting their bikes to singlespeed because they want that clean look. Fashion even dictates component choices in most cases, the return to classic componentry on modern bikes is as much a fashion statement as it is an appreciation for older tech.
I am a fan of everything alternative within bicycling, yes. Because there's creativity and experimentation which is ultimately a positive thing. People are repurposing older bikes, and yes often they're dictated by trends. For example you see a bunch of people fitting exceptionally large tyres in old MTB frames because it looks utterly brutal, but why is it a bad thing if they enjoy tinkering with the bikes and use them? I of course think practicality is important, and making decisions to set up a bike a certain way and then it being uncomfortable to ride is of course silly. But as someone who frequents the circles of xbike enthusiasts, who are proud of this sort of bastardery, I can tell you that they definitely do ride their bikes - and they ride more than the majority of leather saddle patina sniffers who wouldn't even dare take their bike outside on a damp day.
The guy with that Surly uses it daily, and goes on great adventures. No complaints about comfort. Also, since when were bars at saddle height a bad thing? That's always been my go to for comfort. But I suppose I best assess historical documents to determine what feels right for me
Also Rob voiced some concerns in regards to how the bars set up inverted could apply some undue pressure on the hands, I believe that was it. I made it clear to him that should it be uncomfortable I'd probably turn them 'the right way up', the jury is still out as I'm missing some parts to take the CC on long trips.
Love you Woz
I still don't like inverted North roads, buy some Nitto mustache or some such. Inverted bars look like upside down bars imo
"leather saddle patina sniffers" The above post was more in response to @Guinessisgoodforyou to be honest and getting awarded and angry emoticon. He was winding you up a bit and so was I
The blog post explores rather well the fuss of "inverted North Road" bars. The comment section includes several things of interest, at least I thought so. Assessing historical documents can provide some enlightening things.
novocaine
Old School Grand Master
Rather like the rest of it too.
Ah right. Yeah that makes sense. Not everyone finds angling more comfortable though. The bars on the German steed are pretty horizontally darted in towards me and I find it surprisingly comfortable. He is correct about that being common on delivery bikes though ie. Long John's. My first impression when riding the steed was actually that is feels very alike riding a Long John. But people do ride those comfortably and for long periods. So I think it's wrong to assume that it is an uncomfortable position because it is common on delivery bicyclesI think @Woz is referring to the grip portion being parallel with the ground, rather than angled to meet the wrist. Obviously varies. I did voice concern about the weight placed on the wrists in response to the hand comfort issue you mentioned. But you did indeed say that you would put them the "right" way up should you get pain.
I still don't like inverted North roads, buy some Nitto mustache or some such. Inverted bars look like upside down bars imo
The bars I run on my 1x1 used to be parallel with the ground which was more comfortable to me but unfortunately the position was a bit low, so I ended up angling them which actually makes my hands go numb more often.
What I've found though is that you end up adding more leverage to the front end when running bars like that guy is on the Surly. Which I think some people don't like, personally I like weighing down the front end a bit and it makes me feel more stable
Guinessisgoodforyou
rBotM Winner
Ironically the first bike on the blog has bars which are supposed to be that way and aren't inverted. Here's some similar that the inverted north road is trying to mimic. To my eyes nicer. Lets not forget beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You will find several n/r bars.
The above post was more in response to @Guinessisgoodforyou to be honest and getting awarded and angry emoticon. He was winding you up a bit and so was I
Edit I feel another angry may be along soon
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I think @Woz is referring to the grip portion being parallel with the ground, rather than angled to meet the wrist. Obviously varies. I did voice concern about the weight placed on the wrists in response to the hand comfort issue you mentioned. But you did indeed say that you would put them the "right" way up should you get pain.
I still don't like inverted North roads, buy some Nitto mustache or some such. Inverted bars look like upside down bars imo
.... and like wise. You are right, if you don't want a more aggressive riding position, don't invert them.
I think it's really that simple and was like that since the beginning of time.
Some people - especially "trend setters" / "influencers" - will not speak out about discomfort. A bit like those tight straight leg jeans with no wiggle and breathing space for the old "meat and two veg". An entire generation incapable to have an off-spring because of fashion
