Help please - Could anyone identify my Carlton frame ?

[DavidT]

I recently acquired this Carlton frame, with a view to restoring it to its former glory but have been unable to identify which model it is, and what year it was built. One of the photos I´m posting shows the frame number, stamped on the rear, nearside drop-out, which I hope might help identify the year. It does have chromed head-lugs which - I think - are Nervex, and the seat-tube has, unfortunately, an unreadable transfer but there are no other clues to what type it might be so all attempts at helping me would be gratefully received. I can do with as much help as possible, in how to go about getting it transformed to its as close as possible original condition.

Although I am 75, I can still hold a spray-gun although it might shake a little and some of the paint might even hit the frame !

As you can probably tell, I need as much help as any of you can possibly offer....and hope I don´t slip this mortal coil before turning the pedals on my Carlton-whatever-type-it-is. :roll:

 

[Spokesmann]

Interesting! Looks to be 60s, the W prefix is throwing me though, although its seems now that letter were used sometime for a few years as opposed to a different one each year. I can't put my finger on those lugs though. About this time they were using cappella mostly... Does not look to be a high end frame so its not 531 tubing. A very nice frame set all the same and well worth refurbishing. As for model I would need a think. Just when you think you have Carlton sussed something comes up that goes against the usual thinking.

 

[otherself]

Def. 1960's from the downtube script and headbadge.

 

[Midlife]

Yep, 60's Carlton

The problem you have in identity was that Carlton would modify catalogue frames at customer requests........."I'd like a Carlton Flyer please but with Capella lugs" and the like.

Stock frames were as catalogue if they had the correct bits in stock

Lugs look a bit "Oscar Egg" ish which Carlton used, Or somebody had a good go at the Lindrick Lug set LOL

Shaun

 

[Spokesmann]

Yep, 60's Carlton

The problem you have in identity was that Carlton would modify catalogue frames at customer requests........."I'd like a Carlton Flyer please but with Capella lugs" and the like.

Stock frames were as catalogue if they had the correct bits in stock

Lugs look a bit "Oscar Egg" ish which Carlton used, Or somebody had a good go at the Lindrick Lug set LOL

Shaun

I agree about the lugs! I have seen that headset lug used before I cant place it...

 

[DavidT]

Thanks all for your replies. I have taken two more photos of the seat tube decoration, which I will add here soon as these might help find the identity of my Carlton frame, so hoping for your further help then, thanks again in the meantime.

 

[anidel]

I remember I saw them too on the Internet.
Here for example, but also somewhere else:

http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/anyone ... st-1744536

Where it is called: Carlton Course Des Primes from 1966

Even though this Course Des Primes doesn't have same lugs: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lewisfitz/ ... otostream/

(Nervex lugs?)
Found them: Nervex Legere 48/161

(http://velobase.com/ViewFramePart.aspx? ... AbsPos=110)

(Thanks to: http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/anyone ... st-1745294)

 

[Spokesmann]

Thats the fella!

 

[anidel]

I feel proud just to have given an answer to where Spokesmann couldn't!
Out to celebrate!!!

 

[Spokesmann]

I feel proud just to have given an answer to where Spokesmann couldn't!
Out to celebrate!!!

Well done, it sometime knowing where you saw it and putting name to it. Carlton never stuck exclusively to the rules book when it came to lugs.