Help ID old Brodie please?

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any luck with the paint stripper on bb for serial number yet?
inquiring minds want to know. :)

the early climbmax's have non ovalized tube sets as well.
I don't think that characteristic can be used to tell models apart definitively.
you can bring frame over and compare it to mine any time.
checking serial number is the only sure way.
 
thanks Roy! I haven't had any time for it, I'm afraid. I currently have a bike in the stand and tinkering with it at the moment and swore not to get distracted before it's finished :) . There's also a few things ahead of it as well so it has been hung up with the rest of "one day" bikes.

I'm not too concerned about serial #'s but wish to confirm if it's a rigid or suspension front end. I know Paul, along with the number, is the best way and will donate to his racing fund one day for a clear answer. But in the meantime, by the way it stands against the wall with the shocks, it looks slightly raised and therefor guess that it's a rigid frame. Cooney, who probably welded it at Brodie, came onto Facebook and gave a great bit of info about it. Can you read this fb thread? Join the group while you're there, too! Your bikes would be really welcomed. https://www.facebook.com/groups/7290356 ... 241356128/

Coon thinks it an "old school Sovereign with Shimano drop outs and I'd have to say it was made for a gatorblade fork. .... that's my guess. If it was an early espresso , it would have larger diameter seat stays. These chain stays look like the lightweight tange .6mm stays."

Harald and Coon vote Sovereign and yes, would love to drop by on the weekend and catch up! Cheers Roy
 
A bit of an update. Today, I stripped the ole white Brodie down of it's rusted parts and got to the serial and it's B176 and Toxik has ID it as a 1990 or 91 Catalyst. I'll send some paypal beer money to Paul with the SN and get accurate info. It doesn't seem to be too rusted on the inside and will sandblast it and fill any dimples with silver soldier and get Toxik to do his magic.
 
BC":2l2rr7fm said:
A bit of an update. Today, I stripped the ole white Brodie down of it's rusted parts and got to the serial and it's B176 and Toxik has ID it as a 1990 or 91 Catalyst. I'll send some paypal beer money to Paul with the SN and get accurate info. It doesn't seem to be too rusted on the inside and will sandblast it and fill any dimples with silver soldier and get Toxik to do his magic.
interesting. another B series model. this was a new set of numbers paul
implimented when he was in litigation with kona. was the catalyst model name used
in 1990/91? thought they were still climbmax's that early. will be interesting to
hear back from paul on it.
 
Retro_Roy":383jmcs8 said:
interesting. another B series model. this was a new set of numbers paul implimented when he was in litigation with kona. was the catalyst model name used in 1990/91? thought they were still climbmax's that early. will be interesting to hear back from paul on it.

Harald said they only made Catalysts and Sovereigns during those years. Boy I wish someone would make a reference spreadsheet with a row listing the models and a column with the years that his various models came and went.
 
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If you go by the catalogues then both Climbmax and Catalyst (but no Sovereign) were available in 1990, that's from TBG anyway. I have a B series Sovereign and I would say your serial number puts it at 91......maybe :)
 
BC":367jsxil said:
A bit of an update. Today, I stripped the ole white Brodie down of it's rusted parts and got to the serial and it's B176 and Toxik has ID it as a 1990 or 91 Catalyst. I'll send some paypal beer money to Paul with the SN and get accurate info. It doesn't seem to be too rusted on the inside and will sandblast it and fill any dimples with silver soldier and get Toxik to do his magic.

B136 and B230 are both ´92 Catalyst´s - as far as the interweb tells me.

Friendly greetings
IHateRain
 
Thanks Raidan and IHateRain.

Fb is pretty cool sometimes. I post a pic of this Brodie and smae questions, and then some key guys that were working at Brodie, Toxik Harald, Chris Cooney, and Paul Brodie himself, all comment under my pic. Tech is crazy cool. 25 years ago, I never would have dreamnt something like this! If you're on FB, here's the thread https://www.facebook.com/groups/7290356 ... ment_reply

You might have to join the group first though? Paul says "B176 is a 19" Catalyst sold to a store in June 6, 1991."
 

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