Hi Guys,
Finally got around to working on a bike that I initially thought was a Benotto 3000 team bike - except on close inspection its not a Benotto, its a Moser. When I picked it up it was a repainted frame with Benotto decals and a benotto chrome fork and panto stem - when stripping it down further inspection showed that the fork number does not match the frame, so forget that. I also have a mid`80`s Benotto 3000 that used to belong to pro rider Rossolino Manca (who rode for 7-Eleven in 1987), so was able to directly inspect both frames side by side.
I`ve posted about this frame briefly before, but here`s what I know:
1. It was a team frame made by Ugo De Rosa (who personally made the pro team bikes for Benotto and Moser) - had a confirmation email from De Rosa that it was made by Ugo but no further information available.
2. It was repainted - some original metalic blue just about remained on the BB threads.
3. The frame is numbered "4" and "MAZ" - the riders reference for Leonardo Mazzantini.
4. The frame is handmade by De Rosa using his bespoke sand cast lugs - the De Rosa guide shows lugs and BB as being late 1970`s - frame is fitted for recessed allen bolt brake bridge so would make it 1979 onwards.
5. The frame has been fitted with braze on front derallieur hanger - not what you would expect to see - bare metal strip down shows the brazing to be far more clumsy than the rest of brazing (which is a masterclass as you would expect). Safe to assume the braze on derralieur was fitted when repainted later in life.
6. When compared with pics of Mosers `79 Paris Roubais Moser its the same apart from the brake bridge (Francesco Mosers had the earlier) bolt type - of note, the chainstay profiles are the same as the Moser bike (a little diamonding but nothing like the Benotto 3000 diamond profile).
7. Leonardo Mazzantini rode a Blue metalic Ugo De Rosa made Moser for Sanson 1980 - I`m 99% sure its that frame.
Stripped frame next to Benotto 3000:
Stripped frame:
Lug details:
Stunning brazing on bridge`s:
Clumsy brazing on added front derralieur mount:
De Rosa lug guide:
Francesco Mosers `89 Sanson team bike:
Plan is to fully restore it back to its original colour and set up - full super record spec plus Moser parts.
Was probably going to keep the brazed on front derailieur but have been advised on another forum its best to heat and remove it - also, anyone have any idea what the paint code or nearest car colour is to the Moser blue - maybe Porsche Cayman Blue?
Thanks, Dan.
Finally got around to working on a bike that I initially thought was a Benotto 3000 team bike - except on close inspection its not a Benotto, its a Moser. When I picked it up it was a repainted frame with Benotto decals and a benotto chrome fork and panto stem - when stripping it down further inspection showed that the fork number does not match the frame, so forget that. I also have a mid`80`s Benotto 3000 that used to belong to pro rider Rossolino Manca (who rode for 7-Eleven in 1987), so was able to directly inspect both frames side by side.
I`ve posted about this frame briefly before, but here`s what I know:
1. It was a team frame made by Ugo De Rosa (who personally made the pro team bikes for Benotto and Moser) - had a confirmation email from De Rosa that it was made by Ugo but no further information available.
2. It was repainted - some original metalic blue just about remained on the BB threads.
3. The frame is numbered "4" and "MAZ" - the riders reference for Leonardo Mazzantini.
4. The frame is handmade by De Rosa using his bespoke sand cast lugs - the De Rosa guide shows lugs and BB as being late 1970`s - frame is fitted for recessed allen bolt brake bridge so would make it 1979 onwards.
5. The frame has been fitted with braze on front derallieur hanger - not what you would expect to see - bare metal strip down shows the brazing to be far more clumsy than the rest of brazing (which is a masterclass as you would expect). Safe to assume the braze on derralieur was fitted when repainted later in life.
6. When compared with pics of Mosers `79 Paris Roubais Moser its the same apart from the brake bridge (Francesco Mosers had the earlier) bolt type - of note, the chainstay profiles are the same as the Moser bike (a little diamonding but nothing like the Benotto 3000 diamond profile).
7. Leonardo Mazzantini rode a Blue metalic Ugo De Rosa made Moser for Sanson 1980 - I`m 99% sure its that frame.
Stripped frame next to Benotto 3000:
Stripped frame:
Lug details:
Stunning brazing on bridge`s:
Clumsy brazing on added front derralieur mount:
De Rosa lug guide:
Francesco Mosers `89 Sanson team bike:
Plan is to fully restore it back to its original colour and set up - full super record spec plus Moser parts.
Was probably going to keep the brazed on front derailieur but have been advised on another forum its best to heat and remove it - also, anyone have any idea what the paint code or nearest car colour is to the Moser blue - maybe Porsche Cayman Blue?
Thanks, Dan.
