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Given the choice I'd have Colt's truck btw, or BA's van.
Given the choice I'd have Colt's truck btw, or BA's van.
I agree with a lot of what you say, and torqueless and Greencat for that matter. Cars are used as status symbols, demand is constructed or engineered in various ways, etc. (As long ago as 1960, Vance Packard was explaining this stuff in books like The Waste Makers, which is still worth a read.) The bulk of a EV's CO2 footprint comes from its manufacture and the bulk of a traditional car's CO2 footprint comes from exhaust. The CO2 footprint from manufacture is higher for an EV but the lack of CO2 emissions from exhaust means that a petrol engine car can have a higher overall CO2 footprint (manufacture + use) within two years of sale. In turn, that means that, even if an existing petrol engine car was scrapped and replaced with a brand new EV, within four years the EV's CO2 footprint, including manufacture, could be less than the CO2 footprint of an existing traditional car's exhaust alone. (https://www.carbonbrief.org/factcheck-h ... ate-change). However, it very much depends on how the electricity is generated. In Poland, the CO2 footprint of an EV, over its entire lifespan, would be higher than that of a petrol car at present due to the reliance on coal to generate electricity. But care for the global environment requires global efforts - no one is denying that apart from conspiracy theorists.legrandefromage":1hch5qia said:....and an electric Polestar emits 24 metric tons of carbon during production (an XC90 is 14 tons)
I'd rather have the fiesta because in the real world, its cheap to insure, service and use
That real world thing is where normal people live, not Marketing world. Marketing World is a universe where anything over 4 minutes old simply ceases to register. Marketing world it looks like a BMW advert or an Audi advert where everyone lives in large houses and they laugh at each other as one presses the start button on their 530D and the cam chain never EVER falls off...
mk one":phnisok7 said:mp's are already discussing how best to implement the pay-per-mile tax to fill the tax void when more people have swapped over to ev's,
torqueless":lqmlqz20 said:Yeah but would you be happy to relinquish the personal high-speed vehicle if you could live in a world so arranged that your economic viability no longer depended on it?
Or do you consider it to be your God-given right to zoom anywhere the transport infrastructure will allow?
And is the personal high-speed vehicle a status symbol for you, in the sense that you would resent others having access to it while you were denied it?