Cycle helmet debate number 56565647564 with a twist

[mk one]

Re: Re:

I never realised you didnt have to wear helmets on horses, just assumed you did as most do. Can i ask if horse riding helmets are saftey rated and which impacts are they rated for?

As to the standards, I have just pinched this from the Charles Owen web site: "All riding helmet manufacturers have to produce helmets to meet one of three international safety standards or marks – the PAS015:2011, the VG1 01.040 2014-12 and ASTM F1163:04a – and some may even produce helmets to meet all of them."


and gave me a real cartoon rockets and starts circling my head moment. When I got home I cut the straps off the helmet and threw it in the bin, job done and £100 well spent.

Thank you, gives me something to read up on later.

if only that actually happened, would liven the place up a bit
But that is a very good point you raised there, i wonder how many people after a crash, and there seem to be a lot on here, actually replace their helmet after a crash, as you should!

 

[NeilM]

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No it really did happen... at least I could see them, and I'm pretty sure my horse could too as he was standing over me looking at me intently... of course he might of been thinking WTF are you doing down there?

 

[The History Man]

You know when you've had a decent 'off' as your socks are full of soil. As mine were at mayhem this year.

The seat belt debate is a whole other old chestnut roasting on an open fire..........

 

[Woz]

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Unsurprisingly, this thread is
developing in a similar fashion to
the previous 56565647563. Not
much new, usual anecdotes from each side of the fence, and frankly
very odd analogies.


So.....how about:


Cloth caps (approved retroness
sweat sponge) and relocation to
France (where there is a cycling
tradition, and motorists can not
bully cyclists, pedestrians or horses) is of course the definitive
and rational solution.

....or possibly, relocate to Holland, learn to ride SS one
handed, use other hand for umbrella or spliff.

Anything else is half arsed :-D

 

[firedfromthecircus]

Re: Re:

Unsurprisingly, this thread is
developing in a similar fashion to
the previous 56565647563. Not
much new, usual anecdotes from each side of the fence, and frankly
very odd analogies.

The strange thing is that so many people will take it on blind faith that wearing a helmet is safer and criticise anyone who says different. If you happen to come to that opinion having done the research with an open mind, then fair enough, but it seems that is not the case with most. Anecdotal evidence seems to win the day. :roll:
Anecdotal evidence from my 40 years of cycling would suggest that eye protection and wrist protection are far more valuable than a helmet in trying to prevent injury, but I wouldn't begin to suggest that anyone who cycles without them doesn't love their family enough!

In the countries where cycling rates are highest the vast majority (including small children) do not wear helmets for normal cycling, and they don't have skyrocketing head injury rates. Some would argue that the traffic free cycling provision is the reason, but a cycle helmet is not designed in any way to cope with a collision with a motorised vehicle.

This is of course the case for 'normal' cycling. Mountain biking, road racing, trials/BMX riding etc, is different, and the risks/benefits of wearing a helmet are different as well. But do your research and make an educated decision. Don't just blindly assume anything, especially when the people who make a fortune selling helmets are trying to keep profits up!

 

[retrobate]

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Re. horse riding helmets. Under 14's are required to wear a helmet when riding on the road.
https://www.rospa.com/road-safety/advice/horse-riders/

 

[longun]

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Love my helmets he etto ones cooler than penguin piss and my giro looks enduro hahaha

Sat on the fence here, I ride with one most times and when in the peaks or trail centres I feel those who don't are asking for trouble if they crash. Same as safety helmets on site, only save you from some accidents.

 

[highlandsflyer]

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Have multiple experiences of helmets saving my bacon. Would have been at least in hospital for a longer stay if I made it that far.

I don't get the argument that putting potential riders off makes. There seems to be a hole in that thinking. The helmet is not intrusive, and no real hassle. If it is, take it off. Simple. Choice.

 

[xerxes]

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I don't get the argument that putting potential riders off makes. There seems to be a hole in that thinking.

It seems to be a fact, everywhere they've made wearing a helmet compulsory, the number of people cycling has dropped.

Wearing a helmet to "go cycling" is fine, but having to wear one to ride half a mile to the shops and back is a nuisance. It also makes those city bicycle hire schemes much less convenient if you have to carry a helmet around in order to use them. Then there's the people that have a complex coiffure which they don't want to spoil by wearing a hat.

It basically deters casual cyclists, the sort of people that governments around the world are trying to encourage not to use their cars.

Head injuries are just as common for pedestrians and motorists and we would think it ludicrous to suggest that they wear a helmet.

 

[The History Man]

How could you not?