Why?al":wgjc7fq0 said:I promise this is my last post on the subject.
I'm quite enjoying your posts on the subject.
Why?al":wgjc7fq0 said:I promise this is my last post on the subject.
no need to get all sinnerman with the exclamation points(thanks for leaving out the ellipses). I thought that's what threads like this were for? see your next statement belowal":3rf8n7or said:Not sure I need to justify my views to anyone!!
now we're on the same page.al":3rf8n7or said:I'm putting the un-cool arguement forward on the basis this is a forum and we have all been asked the question.
not really, I'll explain why in a momental":3rf8n7or said:maybe this will help the debate.
some of emal":3rf8n7or said:Are Toyota cars cool?
yesal":3rf8n7or said:you sure?
yes, some are. see aboveal":3rf8n7or said:
Now, are Toyota cars cool?
so on the one hand you argue that shimmy is uncool becauseal":3rf8n7or said:No!! the 2000 GT was though.
al.
al":3rf8n7or said:As for the question posed, Is Shimano cool? Then we all only have to look at the pix of that disgusting carbon monstrosity of an XTR rear mech for the answer!!
al.
this I think is the true heart of the matter. it was trendy to hate on the corporate giant that is shimano for a while. "I'll be an individual(just like all my friends) and get something other than shimano". reeks of trying to be cool, and trying to be cool seldom isal":3rf8n7or said:I can't believe that anyone into this 'scene' would find a company that has eroded Individuality within our hoby as cool.
al.
hollister":2obkiwdt said:no need to get all sinnerman with the exclamation points(thanks for leaving out the ellipses). I thought that's what threads like this were for? see your next statement belowal":2obkiwdt said:Not sure I need to justify my views to anyone!!
now we're on the same page.al":2obkiwdt said:I'm putting the un-cool arguement forward on the basis this is a forum and we have all been asked the question.
not really, I'll explain why in a momental":2obkiwdt said:maybe this will help the debate.
some of emal":2obkiwdt said:Are Toyota cars cool?
yesal":2obkiwdt said:you sure?
yes, some are. see aboveal":2obkiwdt said:
Now, are Toyota cars cool?
so on the one hand you argue that shimmy is uncool becauseal":2obkiwdt said:No!! the 2000 GT was though.
al.
al":2obkiwdt said:As for the question posed, Is Shimano cool? Then we all only have to look at the pix of that disgusting carbon monstrosity of an XTR rear mech for the answer!!
al.
like I said if your basing your uncool vote on that new carbon clad mech(on a site called retrobike of all places), well, thats just seems silly. but shimano must have made some cool stuff(go look at some m900 derailleurs, just look at em), just as toyota made some cool cars(look at that pic up there!). right?
I've seen it argued that functionality has nothing to do with 'cool', so components that work well shouldn't be penalized for it, true?
but non of this has anything to do with your original statement
this I think is the true heart of the matter. it was trendy to hate on the corporate giant that is shimano for a while. "I'll be an individual(just like all my friends) and get something other than shimano". reeks of trying to be cool, and trying to be cool seldom isal":2obkiwdt said:I can't believe that anyone into this 'scene' would find a company that has eroded Individuality within our hoby as cool.
al.
ymmv
hollister":2idkmika said:this I think is the true heart of the matter. it was trendy to hate on the corporate giant that is shimano for a while. "I'll be an individual(just like all my friends) and get something other than shimano". reeks of trying to be cool, and trying to be cool seldom is
dbmtb":dbwanvfy said:hollister":dbwanvfy said:this I think is the true heart of the matter. it was trendy to hate on the corporate giant that is shimano for a while. "I'll be an individual(just like all my friends) and get something other than shimano". reeks of trying to be cool, and trying to be cool seldom is
One of the smartest posts in the thread so far. Nail, head, bullseye.
al":1dtw4lrs said:dbmtb":1dtw4lrs said:hollister":1dtw4lrs said:this I think is the true heart of the matter. it was trendy to hate on the corporate giant that is shimano for a while. "I'll be an individual(just like all my friends) and get something other than shimano". reeks of trying to be cool, and trying to be cool seldom is
One of the smartest posts in the thread so far. Nail, head, bullseye.
So a third of the members on here are trying to be cool?
I have news for you, we are men riding push bikes! 99.9% of the human race think we're just weird. So from what you and hollister are saying, I along with many others on here are trying to impress you?
Gets better and better.
al.
al":1o8cxcdj said:So a third of the members on here are trying to be cool?