stefanano57
Pace Fan
To me NOS is not a definition of condition, but a definition of status. NOS component can have marks from storage, for example staying 20 years at the window of a shop in direct sunlight. However "mint" can be used, if only fitted to a bike, but without basically any marks other that made at factory. Used/mint can therefore be in better condition than NOS.To be fair to the seller, 'NOSish' is a pretty fair and honest description of that chain set: not NOS but close to NOS. The description explains that it's been pulled from a show bike so at least the seller isn't trying to mislead buyers by claiming, as others might have done, that it's an NOS item.
Still a virgin? I only "tested" her onceBuilt up and ridden <100 “test miles” (because test miles aren’t real miles) equals NEW
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That's a very good point. To my mind, 'NOS' is being understood as an absolute or non-gradable term, meaning that an item cannot be more NOS or less NOS, it either is or is not NOS. The word 'unique' is often used as an example of a non-gradable term: things are unique or are not, but they cannot be more unique or less unique. However, perhaps 'vertical' is a better example here: if a line is vertical, it cannot be made more vertical or less vertical; it either is or is not vertical. But that is not to say that non-vertical lines cannot be more or less close to vertical. A line that is one degree off vertical is closer to being vertical than a line that is forty-five degrees off. In other words, although there might not be degrees of NOS there can be degrees of proximity to NOS. It's not black and white; it's black and shades of grey, and some of those shades of grey are closer to black than others.To me NOS is not a definition of condition, but a definition of status. NOS component can have marks from storage, for example staying 20 years at the window of a shop in direct sunlight. However "mint" can be used, if only fitted to a bike, but without basically any marks other that made at factory. Used/mint can therefore be in better condition than NOS.
True, but they went full on with the mole grips.NSAS- Never seen a spanner. That’s gradable dependent on packaging and storage conditions etc.