Re: boy"O"boy's 1990 Specialized Stumpjumper Comp.
STOP EVERYTHING!!! - THE WINNER IS NOT THE REAL DEAL!!
*SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENTS MEAN THE VOTE IS VOID*!!!
So. The strip of the frame has begun..... but before I got stuck in, I looked to get my decals ordered.
Then I saw this request from barkda the mtb chat -
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=420645
1st thing I noticed was that his decals are very different to the ones on mine. Mine are in fact the 1991 Version (or very similar) :?
Then the paint stripper comes out. The paint is shot anyway so regardless of final colour, it would have needed stripping anyway. As Langlows takes effect - a chunk of filler comes out of the crank clearance on the chainstay...... revealing loads of chainsuck gouges underneath. That surely wouldn't be there if this was original paint?
The more I investigate, it seems there is 'another' white on top of a 'gold tinted' white.
The paint on the fork steerer seems to be the original colour, but I'd put the darker white down to years of grease from the headset. One of the paint guys at work reckons this has definitely been rubbed down and repainted over an original colour - there's 3 distinct layers. This would make sense why there's filler in the chain stay.
Investigate some more. There's no seat stay cable stop like on the 1990 version. When rubbed back to bare metal - there's no sign either that there ever was one? - If there had been one, there would be traces of where it had been in the bare metal.
The seat clamp is also different - not a band like on the 90, but a rear clamp. It also looks as if the shape has been filed down - but not dissimilar to Spanky's 89 team on the previous page.
So what Stumpjumper is it? - It's definitely not a 1990 or later.
1988 would have had chainstay U-brakes so it's not one of those.
I'm guessing it's a 1989 Stumpjumper that's been painted up to look like a 1990, probably because the gold tint in the white had not aged well.
What 1989 Stumpjumper though?
It's not the pink/ green one. I'd have found traces of this colour when stripping down the paint. This is white. The forks are the same white underneath too which suggests they are the original direct drives.
The next nearest is the Stumpjumper Comp. Here's a pic from the readers section of a mint 1989. It's in black though :? .....but if you look in the Catalogue in the Archive, the same bike has a footnote at the bottom saying it is also available in white. The next pic is what it could be if this is the white version? with blue decals?
The bike it could be is the 89 team. With bare metal...I've no way of confirming this is Tange Prestige. It feels comparable to the frame weight of my other 2 Tange prestige builds before I'd built them up.
I would have thought the team would have deleted the eyelets on the rear, but if you go back to Spanky's pics the the previous page....It's got the same seat tube detail and eyelets. :?
Again, chatting with my painter mate, You would definitely lay the white down 1st over a white primer before painting the pearl grey. Painting this the other way round would require more white to cover the grey.
So it's either an '89 comp or '89 team that we're talking here. But which one?
The frame number is M8L 84423
Any Specialized experts able to decipher this number? - there's not a lot online. :?
Here's some pics.....
All opinions welcome.
Cheers.
boy"O"boy
Peachy!":581et36i said:Option 2....
The “original” voters must have been fraudulent, or voted from the grave... or... or... :facepalm:
Star12":581et36i said:Well that sucks... :x
The vote was stolen! I refuse to accept it...
Option 4 - Team Jersey inspired colours is the clear winner!! I look forward to seeing the build!
Star12
STOP EVERYTHING!!! - THE WINNER IS NOT THE REAL DEAL!!
*SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENTS MEAN THE VOTE IS VOID*!!!
So. The strip of the frame has begun..... but before I got stuck in, I looked to get my decals ordered.
Then I saw this request from barkda the mtb chat -
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=420645
1st thing I noticed was that his decals are very different to the ones on mine. Mine are in fact the 1991 Version (or very similar) :?
Then the paint stripper comes out. The paint is shot anyway so regardless of final colour, it would have needed stripping anyway. As Langlows takes effect - a chunk of filler comes out of the crank clearance on the chainstay...... revealing loads of chainsuck gouges underneath. That surely wouldn't be there if this was original paint?
The more I investigate, it seems there is 'another' white on top of a 'gold tinted' white.
The paint on the fork steerer seems to be the original colour, but I'd put the darker white down to years of grease from the headset. One of the paint guys at work reckons this has definitely been rubbed down and repainted over an original colour - there's 3 distinct layers. This would make sense why there's filler in the chain stay.
Investigate some more. There's no seat stay cable stop like on the 1990 version. When rubbed back to bare metal - there's no sign either that there ever was one? - If there had been one, there would be traces of where it had been in the bare metal.
The seat clamp is also different - not a band like on the 90, but a rear clamp. It also looks as if the shape has been filed down - but not dissimilar to Spanky's 89 team on the previous page.
So what Stumpjumper is it? - It's definitely not a 1990 or later.
1988 would have had chainstay U-brakes so it's not one of those.
I'm guessing it's a 1989 Stumpjumper that's been painted up to look like a 1990, probably because the gold tint in the white had not aged well.
What 1989 Stumpjumper though?
It's not the pink/ green one. I'd have found traces of this colour when stripping down the paint. This is white. The forks are the same white underneath too which suggests they are the original direct drives.
The next nearest is the Stumpjumper Comp. Here's a pic from the readers section of a mint 1989. It's in black though :? .....but if you look in the Catalogue in the Archive, the same bike has a footnote at the bottom saying it is also available in white. The next pic is what it could be if this is the white version? with blue decals?
The bike it could be is the 89 team. With bare metal...I've no way of confirming this is Tange Prestige. It feels comparable to the frame weight of my other 2 Tange prestige builds before I'd built them up.
I would have thought the team would have deleted the eyelets on the rear, but if you go back to Spanky's pics the the previous page....It's got the same seat tube detail and eyelets. :?
Again, chatting with my painter mate, You would definitely lay the white down 1st over a white primer before painting the pearl grey. Painting this the other way round would require more white to cover the grey.
So it's either an '89 comp or '89 team that we're talking here. But which one?
The frame number is M8L 84423
Any Specialized experts able to decipher this number? - there's not a lot online. :?
Here's some pics.....
All opinions welcome.
Cheers.
boy"O"boy
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