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Yeah, tubes all round for me.
Have had one puncture in the last few years and that's a good few miles spread over a few machines. With the Pugsley and 1X1 running pretty low pressures over a lot of rocky stuff. If I was worried about weight then I wouldn't be riding old rigid steel frames everywhere anyway.
Modern tubes are pretty light, don't know what those ones that Brian used when he was a boy weigh though
Jamie
Have had one puncture in the last few years and that's a good few miles spread over a few machines. With the Pugsley and 1X1 running pretty low pressures over a lot of rocky stuff. If I was worried about weight then I wouldn't be riding old rigid steel frames everywhere anyway.
Modern tubes are pretty light, don't know what those ones that Brian used when he was a boy weigh though
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I'm waiting for them to reinvent the clincher tubular.
Or preferably the Fleuss tyre. (abt 1890)
Does this fit the bill?
http://www.bikerumor.com/2016/09/12/inn ... r-concept/
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Finally a good idea has come forward, looks good FFTC but when will they hit the shops and what ridiculous price will they be ?
Finally a good idea has come forward, looks good FFTC but when will they hit the shops and what ridiculous price will they be ?
old_coyote_pedaller
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When I read dyna's post about tubeless and he wondered what next I thought about posting, jokingly, that the next big thing would be "tubeless" tubulars with beads so they'd fit to a normal rim. Then Brian posted the very thing, the Fleuss tyre from 1890, how I imagined it. :shock:
Now FFTC posts a link to this re-invented next big thing. There's nowt new under the sun.
I've only got 1 tubeless wheel, a Lefty, I bought it already fitted. They claim tubeless is lighter, you can run lower pressures for grip but you need to renew the liquid sealant occasionally as it supposedly dries out. Unless you remove tyre from wheel and clean it out, a real pain in the erse, it's only going to get heavier as you top it up losing the lower weight advantage. But how would you remove the dried out sealant from one of these new-concept tubular tubeless tyres?
I'm like Jamie, prefer tubes, there's less faffing around and how long does it take to change a tube?
When I read dyna's post about tubeless and he wondered what next I thought about posting, jokingly, that the next big thing would be "tubeless" tubulars with beads so they'd fit to a normal rim. Then Brian posted the very thing, the Fleuss tyre from 1890, how I imagined it. :shock:
Now FFTC posts a link to this re-invented next big thing. There's nowt new under the sun.
I've only got 1 tubeless wheel, a Lefty, I bought it already fitted. They claim tubeless is lighter, you can run lower pressures for grip but you need to renew the liquid sealant occasionally as it supposedly dries out. Unless you remove tyre from wheel and clean it out, a real pain in the erse, it's only going to get heavier as you top it up losing the lower weight advantage. But how would you remove the dried out sealant from one of these new-concept tubular tubeless tyres?
I'm like Jamie, prefer tubes, there's less faffing around and how long does it take to change a tube?
gmac123
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I don't remove the tyres, simply remove the valve core and add another 60g that way one a year. you just need a bottle with a nozzle or a simple injector / syringe thing. I've removed the dried out stuff once and ruined my thumbs in the process, never again.. so i guess they're getting progressively heavier :facepalm:
light they are not, the first tyres I got were not too bad, but the current editions of the very same tyre have thicker heavier sidewall, in honesty they weigh a scary amount. I don't carry a boot for tears, because it would take a bowie knife to cut these tyres and canny see it happening
i just like the fact that they have never punctured, especially on hill rocky hill paths when I've hit edges or felt stones clash with the rim, where I know I would have had a check / snake bit puncture. especially good on the bikepacking bike where the weight is higher and the chances of a check were higher
can't see tubs catching on mtbs or they would have years ago. the side ways / centrifugal force or the more skilled riders is probably too high. they'll never replace tubes either because the lower end of the market will never accept them
it ain't for retro bikes because it just ain't retro
:facepalm: light they are not, the first tyres I got were not too bad, but the current editions of the very same tyre have thicker heavier sidewall, in honesty they weigh a scary amount. I don't carry a boot for tears, because it would take a bowie knife to cut these tyres and canny see it happening
i just like the fact that they have never punctured, especially on hill rocky hill paths when I've hit edges or felt stones clash with the rim, where I know I would have had a check / snake bit puncture. especially good on the bikepacking bike where the weight is higher and the chances of a check were higher
can't see tubs catching on mtbs or they would have years ago. the side ways / centrifugal force or the more skilled riders is probably too high. they'll never replace tubes either because the lower end of the market will never accept them
it ain't for retro bikes because it just ain't retro
old_coyote_pedaller
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Ain't nuthin surer, they'll be gettin heavy man. :mrgreen:
Last year I bought a bike for the frame, a Cannondale F800, so had to strip it down so I could transfer all my bits onto frame and put the bits, eventually, from frame onto another too big for me frame. The fact I also had to hide the purchase of another bike from my wife didn't come into it at all. :roll:
Anyway when I took off the front wheel it was way effin heavier than it should have been and when I spun it, it was so out of balance it nearly jumpt oot ma fingers. Took the tyre off and the tube weighed more than the tyre, a folder, with most of it to one side. There was obviously sealant in tube but it was so heavy and seemed like it had congealed into one big lump. Must have been a nightmare to ride at any speed with it wheeching up and down. So maybe something else to think about when topping up the sealant yearly, if it's drying out it might end up as a lump in tyre.
If I could be bothered with the faff, it not being retro widnae stop me using them on a bike retro or no.
Ain't nuthin surer, they'll be gettin heavy man. :mrgreen:
Last year I bought a bike for the frame, a Cannondale F800, so had to strip it down so I could transfer all my bits onto frame and put the bits, eventually, from frame onto another too big for me frame. The fact I also had to hide the purchase of another bike from my wife didn't come into it at all. :roll:
Anyway when I took off the front wheel it was way effin heavier than it should have been and when I spun it, it was so out of balance it nearly jumpt oot ma fingers. Took the tyre off and the tube weighed more than the tyre, a folder, with most of it to one side. There was obviously sealant in tube but it was so heavy and seemed like it had congealed into one big lump. Must have been a nightmare to ride at any speed with it wheeching up and down. So maybe something else to think about when topping up the sealant yearly, if it's drying out it might end up as a lump in tyre.
If I could be bothered with the faff, it not being retro widnae stop me using them on a bike retro or no.
old_coyote_pedaller
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Get the frames all the same colour, she'll no notice as long as they are in 2 different places.
Bought a red Cannondale hardtail frame with the idea of building a bike with a Headshok, then I found on here another red Cannondale hardtail frame with a few bits on it, cranks, mechs, red Headshok, bought it just for the bits. Kept one hanging up in my tool shed, NOT the bike shed, and the other one was hung up in the porch, she didn't realise till my daughter blabbed asking why I had 2 red frames. :facepalm:
Get the frames all the same colour, she'll no notice as long as they are in 2 different places.
Bought a red Cannondale hardtail frame with the idea of building a bike with a Headshok, then I found on here another red Cannondale hardtail frame with a few bits on it, cranks, mechs, red Headshok, bought it just for the bits. Kept one hanging up in my tool shed, NOT the bike shed, and the other one was hung up in the porch, she didn't realise till my daughter blabbed asking why I had 2 red frames. :facepalm:
