A no holds barred 'why I dont like' thread.
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warpedboy2
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FMJ":1wpuat8i said:
Better than "killer".
Builds with no passion, imagination, ambition or wow. Why take the middle of the road when there's an untrodden path?
Wallet waving or poverty claiming. Anyone who claims 'things are too expensive on eBay to enjoy this hobby any more' is just as lazy as the man who pays £1000 BIN for a pair of pedals. There are other ways to find stuff than eBay and that's half the fun of the build. Some of the nicest builds cost the least but have the best story, some of the dullest builds cost the most and are just clinical.
People who confuse disparaging shit bikes with an attack on cheap bikes and then trawl out the Elitest argument. Shit bike can be cheap, but cheap bikes aren't nessesarily shit. Cost and quality don't go hand in hand (trek diving board bike anyone). Similarly common bikes aren't nessesarily good, popularity is not an indicator of quality, just proof that marketing works (activator anyone...)
People who can't believe that others can love retro bikes, love building retro bikes or love owning retro bikes without feeling the need to ride them all the time. This is a bike site as much as a riding site yet 'retroriders' think they walk on water.
'My (sort of) first bike' builds As a kid I loved the fancy bikes in the bike shop and magazines and I'm obsessed with getting them now. My first car was a rusty old Nova but I'm not about to hunt one down in Exchange and Mart, my first job was a paper boy earning a tenner a week but I'm not trading in my current pay packet for that one so why would I do it with my bikes. Just strikes me of a lack of imagination - if it is your actual first bike you've owned for 20 years then maybe there's an excuse, but not if it's just the same model bought 20 years later.
Mechanical advice that is based on nothing but a hunch or the claim of 'a mate in aerospace'. There are more than enough shop mechanics and professional engineers on here that can offer real world advice without resorting to any advice starting with the words 'I reckon'.
The belief that things were 'better back in the day'. No, they were just different but nostalgia is a powerful, mind-altering drug. The past has shaped my present and means I can plan for my future without repeating the same mistakes again.
'What's it worth' threads. If you like it then good, if you don't then stick it on eBay and see what happens, or even better strip it and sell it on here at a 'not for profit' price - you'll get loads of warm feelings and will get back what you gave in spades as people look after people who look after people.
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Rob Warner. Now and back then
Antagonists who add nothing to the site
Wallet waving or poverty claiming. Anyone who claims 'things are too expensive on eBay to enjoy this hobby any more' is just as lazy as the man who pays £1000 BIN for a pair of pedals. There are other ways to find stuff than eBay and that's half the fun of the build. Some of the nicest builds cost the least but have the best story, some of the dullest builds cost the most and are just clinical.
People who confuse disparaging shit bikes with an attack on cheap bikes and then trawl out the Elitest argument. Shit bike can be cheap, but cheap bikes aren't nessesarily shit. Cost and quality don't go hand in hand (trek diving board bike anyone). Similarly common bikes aren't nessesarily good, popularity is not an indicator of quality, just proof that marketing works (activator anyone...)
People who can't believe that others can love retro bikes, love building retro bikes or love owning retro bikes without feeling the need to ride them all the time. This is a bike site as much as a riding site yet 'retroriders' think they walk on water.
'My (sort of) first bike' builds As a kid I loved the fancy bikes in the bike shop and magazines and I'm obsessed with getting them now. My first car was a rusty old Nova but I'm not about to hunt one down in Exchange and Mart, my first job was a paper boy earning a tenner a week but I'm not trading in my current pay packet for that one so why would I do it with my bikes. Just strikes me of a lack of imagination - if it is your actual first bike you've owned for 20 years then maybe there's an excuse, but not if it's just the same model bought 20 years later.
Mechanical advice that is based on nothing but a hunch or the claim of 'a mate in aerospace'. There are more than enough shop mechanics and professional engineers on here that can offer real world advice without resorting to any advice starting with the words 'I reckon'.
The belief that things were 'better back in the day'. No, they were just different but nostalgia is a powerful, mind-altering drug. The past has shaped my present and means I can plan for my future without repeating the same mistakes again.
'What's it worth' threads. If you like it then good, if you don't then stick it on eBay and see what happens, or even better strip it and sell it on here at a 'not for profit' price - you'll get loads of warm feelings and will get back what you gave in spades as people look after people who look after people.
Plastic parts
Rob Warner. Now and back then
Antagonists who add nothing to the site
Splatter Paint
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Gaudy anodized parts - they just look nasty if overdone. A sprinkling of colour is fine though....
Overbuilt bikes - CNC'd this that and the other when a good old tube would do the job. I.e. X-lite stems. Oversize tubing gets my goat too, unless on an e-stay bike. :roll:
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Overbuilt bikes - CNC'd this that and the other when a good old tube would do the job. I.e. X-lite stems. Oversize tubing gets my goat too, unless on an e-stay bike. :roll:
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pete_mcc":999pudgq said:
Flites were uber expensive and after I bought one they are under 25 gbp.
Finding a thread two months old, replying and the next reply is a quote on a earlier post.
Buying tyres that are useless
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Buyers that take everything available on the For Sale, and then sell them 1 month after with the reason "no suitable build for it".
Finding a thread two months old, replying and the next reply is a quote on a earlier post.
Buying tyres that are useless
&
Buyers that take everything available on the For Sale, and then sell them 1 month after with the reason "no suitable build for it".
highlandsflyer
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zigzag":1gnbyydj said:
Harsh.
There is a hell of a lot of art amongst the craft here.
Groundoggy
Retro Guru
zigzag":2knvz2v4 said:
If somebody wants to store a bike for the better part of 20 years and then sell it to me on the cheap I don't have a problem with it.
Built-in obsolesence - I get that times change and features with them - and as such, often means a change in tooling or compatibility. That's one thing, but other things seem to change for no rhyme or reason other than to create an itch.
When you can look back and say some progressions made sense, and compatibility and changes a necessary aspect, that's one thing - but when you look back and see change for simply change's sake (and with it, a certain contempt for the customer / audience), it just grates.
When you can look back and say some progressions made sense, and compatibility and changes a necessary aspect, that's one thing - but when you look back and see change for simply change's sake (and with it, a certain contempt for the customer / audience), it just grates.
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