1987 Brodie ROMAX.... Update!!!... well... Minor Update
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Re: 1987 Brodie ROMAX.... Welcome to club Romax... ooooh yeeaaaa
Finally made some progress:
- removed the BB
- cleaned out the seat tube (27.2 all the way down now)
- rear spacing now set to 135mm (going 7 speed on this one...)
Next step is to finish prepping the frame / fork / stem for a fresh coat of red
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Finally made some progress:
- removed the BB
- cleaned out the seat tube (27.2 all the way down now)
- rear spacing now set to 135mm (going 7 speed on this one...)
Next step is to finish prepping the frame / fork / stem for a fresh coat of red
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are you really repainting the red????? :shock:
your club membership might be on the line for this action. :facepalm:
did you happen to see this thread?shutter":35ffzdee said:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=258660&hilit=brodie
are you really repainting the red????? :shock:
your club membership might be on the line for this action. :facepalm:
Re: 1987 Brodie ROMAX.... Welcome to club Romax... ooooh yeeaaaa
Aaaah way cool! I like the holes! I'll be making a copy of mine and drilling it out =)
The paint is in bad shape... There are areas of the frame that have good paint but it was a daily rider so lots of paint chips, scuffs, rub marks... I'm a perfectionist so I don't like defects in paint... The frame will be the same red throughout with white decals. If the paint were in much better shape I would leave it for sure. If you see all the other frames/parts I have painted you will see I can do a very pro job =)
Retro_Roy":ib7b5lf2 said:
Aaaah way cool! I like the holes! I'll be making a copy of mine and drilling it out =)
The paint is in bad shape... There are areas of the frame that have good paint but it was a daily rider so lots of paint chips, scuffs, rub marks... I'm a perfectionist so I don't like defects in paint... The frame will be the same red throughout with white decals. If the paint were in much better shape I would leave it for sure. If you see all the other frames/parts I have painted you will see I can do a very pro job =)
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I'm sure you'll do a nice job painting it but I don't think that's the point Roy was making. More that by losing the original paintwork you're losing part of the frame and it's history. IMHO it's not just about the brazing and how the frame and fork designs progressed but the paintwork too; from Rich to Art and then Harald (apologies if I missed anyone out) there's a timeline of painters that follows the timeline of frame designs. Yours is a pretty unique job too. Obviously it's your bike and your choice but just something to consider perhaps?
I'm sure you'll do a nice job painting it but I don't think that's the point Roy was making. More that by losing the original paintwork you're losing part of the frame and it's history. IMHO it's not just about the brazing and how the frame and fork designs progressed but the paintwork too; from Rich to Art and then Harald (apologies if I missed anyone out) there's a timeline of painters that follows the timeline of frame designs. Yours is a pretty unique job too. Obviously it's your bike and your choice but just something to consider perhaps?
Re: 1987 Brodie ROMAX.... Welcome to club Romax... ooooh yeeaaaa
Hi, well, from what I understand (maybe davidlewis can correct me on this one) The frame was not painted by Brodie's in house paint shop. It was painted by an employee of the dealer who sold the bike.
If you held the frame in your hands and saw all the chips, scuffs, rubs, road rash, ect, you would understand why I'm re-painting it. Like I said, for 1987 it's in amazing conditon, which makes the re-paint quite simple, but it's just in rough shape
Hi, well, from what I understand (maybe davidlewis can correct me on this one) The frame was not painted by Brodie's in house paint shop. It was painted by an employee of the dealer who sold the bike.
If you held the frame in your hands and saw all the chips, scuffs, rubs, road rash, ect, you would understand why I'm re-painting it. Like I said, for 1987 it's in amazing conditon, which makes the re-paint quite simple, but it's just in rough shape
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Howdy,
Shaking the cobwebs a bit.
We, Reckless, bought stock frames, bare, from Paul. I could be wrong, but I think Rich did all the Brodie painting at that time. Again, fuzzy memory.
David
PS - A little more on the painting part. Reckless, the original store on 2nd and Fir, was larger back then. They had another part of the building where repairs/builds were done. They also, at the time I got my old bike, had a full on paint spray booth where Rich did his magic. He painted single colours and wild colours. I worked with him to get my patriotic paint job. And I do seem to recall some of the one's listed here as well. Kinda wish he signed it. Oh well.
Howdy,
Shaking the cobwebs a bit.
We, Reckless, bought stock frames, bare, from Paul. I could be wrong, but I think Rich did all the Brodie painting at that time. Again, fuzzy memory.
David
PS - A little more on the painting part. Reckless, the original store on 2nd and Fir, was larger back then. They had another part of the building where repairs/builds were done. They also, at the time I got my old bike, had a full on paint spray booth where Rich did his magic. He painted single colours and wild colours. I worked with him to get my patriotic paint job. And I do seem to recall some of the one's listed here as well. Kinda wish he signed it. Oh well.
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thanks adrian. glad someone gets it and has rallied to my side.
hoping others will as well.
I have seen others speak out on occasion to save an original.
I guess this one is my soapbox.
let me start by saying I mean no disrespect here. this is my plea for mercy.
rich did work at reckless, but went on to become paul's first painter.
besides paul that is. maybe at the time paul didn't have a place to paint.
who knows. I will have to do a bit of research in this area.
not sure on the time line, but my understanding is rich wasn't at brodie that long.
(maybe jimbotoad will chime in with additional info)
this is what makes his contribution so valuable to the history of brodie bikes.
some very cool stuff pre 1990 happened. after that unless it was a custom
paint job for someone, the majority of paint jobs, as good as they were
are pretty run of the mill. single colour or a two tone. nothing really special.
right now this bike is in very elite company. the likes of tony's jellybean,
the yellow/orange that won best mountain bike at harald's show this year
and my romax are a few of them to have survived.
to a brodie collector, the paint on this one is part of the intrinsic value of the bike.
if you go at it with a rattle can the end result will be the equivalent of
owning a painting of dogs playing poker over a mona lisa.
if painted there won't be any reason for me to visit this thread in the future.
won't matter what amount of bling you hang on it. the damage will have been done.
will become a mere shadow of it's former self.
why not just for once, check your idiosyncracy for perfection at the door
and leave this majestic beauty as is for all to appreciate for forever and a day.
isn't for the collector, not just about owning one of these beauties, it's also appreciating them?
clean it all up. get some red touch up and fix the chips. nuf said.
thanks adrian. glad someone gets it and has rallied to my side.
hoping others will as well.
I have seen others speak out on occasion to save an original.
I guess this one is my soapbox.
let me start by saying I mean no disrespect here. this is my plea for mercy.
rich did work at reckless, but went on to become paul's first painter.
besides paul that is. maybe at the time paul didn't have a place to paint.
who knows. I will have to do a bit of research in this area.
not sure on the time line, but my understanding is rich wasn't at brodie that long.
(maybe jimbotoad will chime in with additional info)
this is what makes his contribution so valuable to the history of brodie bikes.
some very cool stuff pre 1990 happened. after that unless it was a custom
paint job for someone, the majority of paint jobs, as good as they were
are pretty run of the mill. single colour or a two tone. nothing really special.
right now this bike is in very elite company. the likes of tony's jellybean,
the yellow/orange that won best mountain bike at harald's show this year
and my romax are a few of them to have survived.
to a brodie collector, the paint on this one is part of the intrinsic value of the bike.
if you go at it with a rattle can the end result will be the equivalent of
owning a painting of dogs playing poker over a mona lisa.
if painted there won't be any reason for me to visit this thread in the future.
won't matter what amount of bling you hang on it. the damage will have been done.
will become a mere shadow of it's former self.
why not just for once, check your idiosyncracy for perfection at the door
and leave this majestic beauty as is for all to appreciate for forever and a day.
isn't for the collector, not just about owning one of these beauties, it's also appreciating them?
clean it all up. get some red touch up and fix the chips. nuf said.
