Wippermann connex chains

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Has anybody got any experience of them? Do they last much longer and/or perform much better than Shimano, SRAM or kmc offerings? I'm considering the purchase of a 10sb model, because it looks very premium and shiny, but given they cost nearly £50 compared to £15 for a Shimano 10 spd chain, are they worth the money?
 
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I've used them before and they are a good chain. Do they last longer than shimano? I'd say yes. Do they look nicer? Yes when compared to the lower end shimano chains.

I did have issues with mine, iirc you can only fit the connector in one direction for smooth running. Put it the other way and it acted like a stiff link.

Not sure I'd buy them again when sram or kcnc options are out there for not much £ and are just as good.
 
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I came across this a while back: http://cozybeehive.blogspot.com/2010/04 ... rmann.html

Because I'm a nerd, I calculated that while the Wipperman were good, the Campagnolo chains worked out as the best value, in terms of fractions of a pence per mile, and I've been using Campagnolo Record 9 speed chains on my 7 and 9 speed bikes ever since. And, anecdotaly, they do seem to last a lot longer than the SRAM chain that I had which was toast after only about 500 miles; I'll never buy another SRAM chain.
 
Good old Retrobike to bring up a subject close to my heart (and because I am also a nerd!).

I’ve been trying various chains from the various companies over the last few years to try to determine what is the best high quality modern chain brand. The trigger for doing this was the result of buying a half decent KMC chain that lasted about four months, which in my book, is dismal. I’ve tried a series of chains in the last few years, in the £25 mark, which I have used till they fail the stretch test on my Park Tool chain tool. I know the chain tool causes a debate in it’s own right but it does provide a consistent measurement of wear.

To cut a lengthy story short, it seems that all modern chains are rubbish. The throw away society has well and truly won this battle. At the weekend just gone I took a cosmetically perfect Wippermann chain off my bike that had been on there for three months and for which the Park Tool rattled like a toy, it was completely shot. I've attached a photo to show the state of the chain so as to dispel any idea that it was abused in any way, which it wasn't. I actually take great pleasure in cleaning and prepping mechanics (my idols were always the mechanics and not the riders).

What I have found interesting is where the chain stretch is now taking place. I used to find that chains have ‘stretched’ when the plates ate into the pin (something that was greatly exacerbated when manufacturers ditched bushed chains). Plates ate into pins because manufacturers were using good quality steel. Now, when I dissect a chain, the pin is pretty much perfect which means that the stretch is, in all likelihood, taking place in the plates themselves which seems to indicate that manufacturers are now using low grade steel with little yield strength. The benefit to the manufacturers of using this steel is that it is cheap to buy and, being soft, also creates very little wear on cutting and forming machines which all saves money for the manufacturer and thus allowing a ridiculously cheap product to be offered to the customer.

My advice, which I will follow myself, is to buy as cheap as you can and buy often.
 

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I'm fairly certain it's not the plates actually stretching, it's wear, not of the pin, because the roller doesn't touch that, but of the inside of the roller itself and the bushing which is formed as part of inner side plates on modern chains.

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And there I was about to go to bed and now I'll have to pull the Wippermann out of the bin and dissect it!
 
Why thankyou Nob! ;)

So I dismantled the Wippermann chain last night and took some photos. The wear on this particular chain is, as Xerxes has said, concentrated promarily onto the pin. This Wippermann pin lasted 3 months with just standard 10 miles a day commuting on flat roads which is about 600-650 miles in total, which is terrible. In answer to the OP's question I wouldn't particularly spend any extra money on a Wippermann chain over a cheaper brand.
 

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