Who Will You Vote For In The Coming General Election?

[technodup]

William Vague, I. D. S., anyone?

IDS - 2 years, instigated a confidence vote, lost it and resigned
Hague - took it on too young, otherwise could have been a great, resigned after election defeat.

Corbyn - already lost a confidence vote massively, will he have the humility to resign after his defeat?

 

[CTK]

If there was anyone better (who'd work for Corbyn) they would be in place now. That's the reason you have Abbott, Thornberry, Rayner and McDonnell. They're the only ones who agree with Corbyn's prospectus. Ability has nothing to do with it. Remember the vote of no confidence? I don't think many of them will have changed their minds, they're being very conspicuous by their absence. Nobody has Jezza on their campaign materials. Toxic.

And as for May, well I suspect she won't actually be around for long. The Tories don't tolerate crap leaders.

Thornberry stood in for ill Abbott to take part in Woman's Hour interview...
Corbyn may or may not beat May but whatever the result he has smashed the PLP.

 

[Harryburgundy]

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I guess Labour has Diane Abbot, the Tories have Boris.
At least she isn't representing the country, and probably never will despite Labour's victory on Thursday ;-)

 

[KDM]

Dianne's problem this morning

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other...o ... ailsignout

 

[Harryburgundy]

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Boris - critising Corbyn for a policy he agrees with
A special kind of stupid isn't he
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.mirror ... 568623.amp

 

[KDM]

The idea Corbyn, Mcdonell, Chakrabati and Abbott are all suddenly champions for the police is not only an insult to the police but I doubt will fool anyone

 

[technodup]

Thornberry stood in for ill Abbott to take part in Woman's Hour interview...

I think 'ill Abbott' should be in quotes there. And not for the first time.

Corbyn may or may not beat May but whatever the result he has smashed the PLP.

The PLP he's going to rely on to pass votes after the election? The same PLP who have no confidence in them? The ones who won't serve in his cabinet?

Aye. Smashed it.

 

[highlandsflyer]

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In the unlikely event Labour form a government, or part of an alliance, there will be no shortage of career politicians crawling back in the door hoping for a place at the big table.

Whatever the result, Corbyn has done a good job of moving politics Left. Argue all you want, that is undeniable.

I look forward to the result, and anticipate Tory Scotland claiming a few seats from the SNP. I am sure the Liberals may well too. We shall probably end up in the mid 40s MPs, but somehow that will be the 'end of the SNP', and the 'removal of the SNP mandate'.. Mark my words.

 

[Harryburgundy]

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Regrettably I predict a Tory win, just.
Why?
My lovely sister exemplified why yesterday-a Daily Mail reader (unknown to me) and life long supporter of the Conservatives and yet completely and utterly politically illiterate, she even thought Tony Blair was a Tory (easy mistake)
The MSM wins

 

[technodup]

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Whatever the result, Corbyn has done a good job of moving politics Left. Argue all you want, that is undeniable.

You'd be disappointed in me if I didn't argue something 'undeniable', so here goes...

I don't think he has moved anything left, except the Labour party. He's motivated some youngsters who traditionally are left anyway, and brought some fringe elements in. But the general discourse is about right v left (simplistic though it is), it's not about 'how far left the Tories have moved' for example. When he loses, and he eventually succumbs to the PLP they'll be right back where they were.

We shall probably end up in the mid 40s MPs, but somehow that will be the 'end of the SNP', and the 'removal of the SNP mandate'.. Mark my words.

It will be the start of the end of the popularity of the SNP. 10 years in office, a pretty poor record starting to be picked apart. Dissatisfaction already apparent re schools, NHS and policing. Combine with people being literally bored sick of Sturgeon and her whinging, throw in a loss of x seats on Thursday, and add to the fact that we only stomach any party for a period before we want a change. Then imagine a moderate new Labour leader to sweep up the soft Yesses and the erstwhile Labourites who couldn't vote for Corbyn and I can't see where the SNP can get the gains they need.

The longer we go without a referendum the less chance she has of success.

I had a 'discussion' with a (previously unknown to me) strong Yesser last week. In Business for Scotland, active, proper fanatic. I told him I was a definite No. Some level of 'debate' ensued. Then I mentioned I was a Tory. Debate ramped up somewhat. I was going to drop in that my preference would be to disband Holyrood and forget the whole shabby wee experiment but I think he would have fainted. That or punched me. Either way a potential NHS cost. So in a way I helped Nicola out. I hope she's ******* grateful.