Who Will You Vote For In The Coming General Election?

[ultrazenith]

A recent study showed people like technodup are wrong about literally everything, when it comes to politics and economics. EVERYTHING. One only has to look at his last few posts here to see his really quite impressive cognitive dissonance.

 

[Mike Muz]

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Of course, you're right.

Who needs workers rights anyway? . . . . . .

Other than workers

Who, in your ideal world, would all be shafted.

Or nationalisation. Isn't that a form of Government regulation/restriction?

As May is promising, regarding energy companies?

But if you can sleep at night, you run with it. Each to their own.

 

[technodup]

I'm not in favour of May's meddling in prices, remember? As for worker's rights, that's another akin to the ZHC issue.

Was an issue in times past, when we worked down mines, or in shipyards or steel works. But in today's service economy where most of us sit at a screen in an office it's really not the big deal the left wants to make it. Most people are quite content with their working conditions.

Because if these were big issues, popular with the electorate, and with a visionary like Corbyn at the helm Labour would be romping it. They are, aren't they?

 

[kingbling]

Bolotic's It's all about the He said, She said bullsh1t

 

[KermitGKona88]

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Oh wow and thought it was just his fashion sense stuck in the 70's :shock: :shock: :facepalm: :facepalm:

So Oddbin wants to take us back to the heady days of the 1970's, general strikes every other week, winters of discontent......

We as a country are struggling to pay for the NHS and it's total excesses.

Now he wants us to pay for the rest of our failing infrastructure too :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

 

[Mike Muz]

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As I've already alluded to, Corbyns biggest obstacle to the top job, is himself.

If most of us 'sit at a screen' how do things get done?

I mean, actual, physical things?

So I admit, I'm sitting at a screen now, really should be going to bed, as I have another early morning ride planned! But at work, I'm not.

Of course, the increasing ZHC issues. Where rights are virtually non existent.

Surely a downward spiral that no-one, not even businessmen want. As I also said earlier, with no-one to buy their products, as more fundamental things soak up their money, what happens to their businesses?

Low overheads, yippee!

No custom? Oh, er, um . . . . :roll:

 

[brocklanders023]

Most people are quite content with their working conditions.

:shock: :facepalm:

Most people are so worried about the security of their job that they realise any complaint against conditions is likely to cost them. There's some eye watering practises at my wife's work but she says any one who rocks the boat is 'managed out'. Any talk of union recognition would result in the same. She is reasonably senior.

People have been conditioned to think they have no option but to accept the shite they are presented with.

 

[brocklanders023]

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Oh wow and thought it was just his fashion sense stuck in the 70's :shock: :shock: :facepalm: :facepalm:

So Oddbin wants to take us back to the heady days of the 1970's, general strikes every other week, winters of discontent......

We as a country are struggling to pay for the NHS and it's total excesses.

Now he wants us to pay for the rest of our failing infrastructure too :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Under national rule the east coast main line went from losing money to being profitable. It made us money.

How much profit do you think the energy companies make? How much profit do you think the rail franchises make?

 

[technodup]

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If most of us 'sit at a screen' how do things get done?

I mean, actual, physical things?

Has the last half century passed you by?

Of course some physical things get done. But the transition from heavy industry, manufacturing etc to services has been quite a significant shift. This idea of pits, heavy labour and grime doesn't really exist any more.

Apart from my first couple of jobs as a teenager I haven't done anything physical, haven't touched a product and haven't made anything. I will be far from alone.

And as a self employed person I am essentially on a ZHC. How can I manage? I should get government help! Jeremyyyyyy!

 

[catf]

uk deindutrialised in response to 70s labour policies, all that stuff in teh 80s was teh teething pangs of that process, uk invented to common market becasue teh eec wasnt interested in the services sector. now what manufacturing inustry we do have is largly foreign owned, only exists becasue of geographical convenience and french protectionism, and yeah theres a few services where you actually do something, but mostly the work available in uk is sitting infront of a screen.

you can either be honest about that, or you cna shed a tear for ppl not having to work in a coal mine and then get with eh program. there is no going back. ironically all of that totally ignores teh fact you cant turn ppl who are only smart enough to work in a pit into computer programmers. thats just aspirational bs.

its same thing with the grammar schools, polls say 50% of parents want them, but they only select the top 20%, so 30% of parents want a poorer standard of education for thier kids. but hey, aspiration, right?

what i can trell you from a personal perpective is that the nhs is dying because of PFI, a new labour policy.