White porcs
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fguki
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Definitely not true (!) Over my last 30 years in retro mountain bikes - and even my other hobbies and interests like fishing, instruments etc. I can say with 120% certainty:
There are A LOT of people out there (with hobbies of ALL sorts) that spend a shit load of money on parts and their hobbies in general - although their financial situation is completely fucked up! They rather buy the next Cook Bros Racing crank set when it pops up instead of paying their rent or energy supplier. Let alone their insurances or any retirement provision.
There are A LOT of people out there (with hobbies of ALL sorts) that spend a shit load of money on parts and their hobbies in general - although their financial situation is completely fucked up! They rather buy the next Cook Bros Racing crank set when it pops up instead of paying their rent or energy supplier. Let alone their insurances or any retirement provision.
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You should have seen RB in 2010. It was absurd as to what people with disposable incomes did on this site. It's their money but the dick swinging got tiresome
Many of those spends are worth a lot less now and it's only items like these Porcs that will hold onto something simply because they were disposable, short production run and not even that common when new.
Synthesisers have gone a bit mad at the moment. Despite all the VST and plugins available to emulate vintage synths and even the sheer impracticalities of owning and storing, some of the prices have gone up and up
Hifi too, a Pioneer SX1980 or even the 1280 have rocketed yet the technics 1210 has kind of settled down a bit after going loopy
Cars are always a good barometer. As the demographic changes, cars come and go in and out of fashion. E-Types were once king at any auction and are now gently floating down the charts. Whereas younger models are picking up rapidly, 106 GTi anyone?
As our demographic ages into our golden years, prices will slide, availability will disappear, fashion will move on. The one good thing about our hobby is that it's fiercely practical and we can still be fit and old rather than fat and old
Well, I hope so anyway
Many of those spends are worth a lot less now and it's only items like these Porcs that will hold onto something simply because they were disposable, short production run and not even that common when new.
Synthesisers have gone a bit mad at the moment. Despite all the VST and plugins available to emulate vintage synths and even the sheer impracticalities of owning and storing, some of the prices have gone up and up
Hifi too, a Pioneer SX1980 or even the 1280 have rocketed yet the technics 1210 has kind of settled down a bit after going loopy
Cars are always a good barometer. As the demographic changes, cars come and go in and out of fashion. E-Types were once king at any auction and are now gently floating down the charts. Whereas younger models are picking up rapidly, 106 GTi anyone?
As our demographic ages into our golden years, prices will slide, availability will disappear, fashion will move on. The one good thing about our hobby is that it's fiercely practical and we can still be fit and old rather than fat and old
Well, I hope so anyway
Once A Hero
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So c.£550 in the end.
A relative bargain of sorts? Well given the £700 estimation/expectation.
Not my cup of tea thankfully.
A relative bargain of sorts? Well given the £700 estimation/expectation.
Not my cup of tea thankfully.
Frankenorange
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Throwing huge sums of money at stuff, before paying for the really important things, is one of the reasons i drifted away from motorsport. Even in the middle of the ladder there was re-mortgaging of houses going on, divorce, bills not being paid etc just to do 30 mins of racing, one weekend of the month, in front of one man and his dog.
Even worse are the money bag clowns who spend 100's of thousands, of mostly their own(well...a banks money) to run cars in the top class of the British Hillclimb Championship. Barely any spectators these days and hills in the UK are like 20-40 secs. I think the longest is Doune, up in Scotland. On the continent the hillclimbing is a different thing all together with really long climbs, thousands of spectators, TV coverage, and sponsorship can pay for alot of it. Drivers over there can become household names as it is just a much bigger thing.
Personally; i thought it was ridiculous. The UK hillclimbers are never going to be famous outside of a niche group of fans and drivers and you might think that they were doing it for the fun of it, but another reason for walking away was there weren't that many people who were having fun. Even at the bottom end there was misery because there wasn't enough money to buy new tyres to beat Richard, from Bognor, or Fred from Hull, or misery because the spanking new engine, that was the ticket to beat them, has just shat itself.
The guys i worked for were definitely in it for the laughs and only spent what they could justify. Even the minted chaps would stretch sets of tyres to the absolute end and be really choosy about what events they did. Family and bills were given top priority.
My early days helping a fellow apprentice, with a mk1 Golf, were all done on a budget and laughs were the priority. It was a very strictly controlled series, to keep costs down, but all it seemed to do was raise the bar for the cheaters who were another reason for stepping away. It was bonkers for a series that not that many people gave a sh!t about. My mate bought himself onto the top of the podium, but that didn't last long as the car got written off, in a motorway crash caused by another car that bounced off a guardrail, on the way home from a day racing. At least that paid out so things could carry on with another car.
I dunno. If £550ish is to the buyer what £50 is to me then fine. If it involved any kind of debt, for what was some grubby old tyres, then they are a fool and nobody should be impressed.
Even worse are the money bag clowns who spend 100's of thousands, of mostly their own(well...a banks money) to run cars in the top class of the British Hillclimb Championship. Barely any spectators these days and hills in the UK are like 20-40 secs. I think the longest is Doune, up in Scotland. On the continent the hillclimbing is a different thing all together with really long climbs, thousands of spectators, TV coverage, and sponsorship can pay for alot of it. Drivers over there can become household names as it is just a much bigger thing.
Personally; i thought it was ridiculous. The UK hillclimbers are never going to be famous outside of a niche group of fans and drivers and you might think that they were doing it for the fun of it, but another reason for walking away was there weren't that many people who were having fun. Even at the bottom end there was misery because there wasn't enough money to buy new tyres to beat Richard, from Bognor, or Fred from Hull, or misery because the spanking new engine, that was the ticket to beat them, has just shat itself.
The guys i worked for were definitely in it for the laughs and only spent what they could justify. Even the minted chaps would stretch sets of tyres to the absolute end and be really choosy about what events they did. Family and bills were given top priority.
My early days helping a fellow apprentice, with a mk1 Golf, were all done on a budget and laughs were the priority. It was a very strictly controlled series, to keep costs down, but all it seemed to do was raise the bar for the cheaters who were another reason for stepping away. It was bonkers for a series that not that many people gave a sh!t about. My mate bought himself onto the top of the podium, but that didn't last long as the car got written off, in a motorway crash caused by another car that bounced off a guardrail, on the way home from a day racing. At least that paid out so things could carry on with another car.
I dunno. If £550ish is to the buyer what £50 is to me then fine. If it involved any kind of debt, for what was some grubby old tyres, then they are a fool and nobody should be impressed.
