which stumpjumper is this?
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Here's my 1991 Epic [steel lugs].
As mentioned, early Ultimates [to '93] had ti lugs painted which made them look like 'basic' Epics - tell tale sign is rack / mudguard mounts on rear dropouts.
Forum member 'Archangel' has the finest one I've seen - a replica of Ned Overends 1990 Worlds bike, built to perfection and finest detail.
They're very nicely made frames - Mike Wilk [ridevintagemtb] has a really special one with lots of proto parts which he's written a nice piece about on his website - a good place to start for info before too much more of it is rehashed here...
Here's my 1991 Epic [steel lugs].
As mentioned, early Ultimates [to '93] had ti lugs painted which made them look like 'basic' Epics - tell tale sign is rack / mudguard mounts on rear dropouts.
Forum member 'Archangel' has the finest one I've seen - a replica of Ned Overends 1990 Worlds bike, built to perfection and finest detail.
They're very nicely made frames - Mike Wilk [ridevintagemtb] has a really special one with lots of proto parts which he's written a nice piece about on his website - a good place to start for info before too much more of it is rehashed here...
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Thias":13e7yj4t said:
Just a friendly clarification, in 1990 Specialized offered an "Epic Ultimate" that was their steel-lugged Epic with WTB parts and XC-Pro. I don't believe the ti-lugged version was offered until 93, and that was named the "S-works Epic Ultimate." S-works being the division of Specialized that worked with Merlin to develop the lugs.
kai's 1991 titanium lugged epic ultimate.
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Thias: "Iirc the early Ulimates had the lugs sprayed black like the rest of the frame. But I'm not 100% sure." you're correct. the earliest ti lugged were all black. the irony is that the silver colour on the later titanium epic/ultimates is actually painted, partially as the titanium ultimate uses the cheaper steel seatstay lugs (off the epic)
Stew-b. the bike in your picture is a 91 steel lugged epic. 1990 didnt have this decal: http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e389/ ... /epic7.jpg purely as Ned won the worlds in 1990 (on a 1 off ti lugged ultimate) & the decal was attached the following year.
BoyBurning is correct; the easiest way to tell our the dropouts. not only do the steel lugged have a mudguard eyelet on the top of the dropout, they're also considerably more rounded. On Kai's you can see the merlin titanium made dropout is considerably more angular, being laser cut
I saw a steel lugged epic frame for £250 on ebay.uk fairly recently. the ti lugged sell for around £750 up, depending on condition.
hope that helps!
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Thias: "Iirc the early Ulimates had the lugs sprayed black like the rest of the frame. But I'm not 100% sure." you're correct. the earliest ti lugged were all black. the irony is that the silver colour on the later titanium epic/ultimates is actually painted, partially as the titanium ultimate uses the cheaper steel seatstay lugs (off the epic)
Stew-b. the bike in your picture is a 91 steel lugged epic. 1990 didnt have this decal: http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e389/ ... /epic7.jpg purely as Ned won the worlds in 1990 (on a 1 off ti lugged ultimate) & the decal was attached the following year.
BoyBurning is correct; the easiest way to tell our the dropouts. not only do the steel lugged have a mudguard eyelet on the top of the dropout, they're also considerably more rounded. On Kai's you can see the merlin titanium made dropout is considerably more angular, being laser cut
I saw a steel lugged epic frame for £250 on ebay.uk fairly recently. the ti lugged sell for around £750 up, depending on condition.
hope that helps!
