when and how did your retro obsession start
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rusty bodie
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No, but I've descended Alp d'Huez and Sa Calobra - much better than I ascended them too!!
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Montello":1rwrc5c4 said:rusty bodie":1rwrc5c4 said:I am going to put it out there and as ridiculous as this may sound, I would fore go superior braking power to have Campagnolo Cobalto brakes ANY DAY! It's all about operating within your limits and I can't imagine that there's ANY cycling situation that a disc brake would get me out of that the good old Cobaltos didn't.
I'm sure that they could handle the extra 18lbs that I'm carrying today, no problem .. ..
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Have you ever descended the Stelvio pass ?
No, but I've descended Alp d'Huez and Sa Calobra - much better than I ascended them too!!
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Robbied196
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I'm another one who grew up with what is now considered 'retro' but I'm not anti modern bikes. I've had this debate a few times with various cycling people. To me its just two fundimetally different production techniques, the end result is like comparing an apple with an orange. I get the romance of craftsman built steel over a moulded piece of plastic but both have their place.
Braking is a key point, retro slows you down, modern stops you. No matter how carefully you ride you can meet a situation where you need to stop quick. Retro is more a combination of slowing down and hopefully maneuvering out of the way so I'd take modern brakes any day.
Although the bike world has moved on, I don't see it as better or worse, just different. The majority of Carbon frames are made in Taiwan including big names like Colnago and I think most if not all of Campagnolo's production is now in Romania. Campag could be a case in point of not moving with the times. They are lagging behind on disc brake technology, eps shifting has its issues, not many teams are selecting to run Campagnolo. I think the last TDF 17 teams ran Shimano, 4 Campag and possibly more teams will run SRAM than Campag this year.
The times, they are a changing
Braking is a key point, retro slows you down, modern stops you. No matter how carefully you ride you can meet a situation where you need to stop quick. Retro is more a combination of slowing down and hopefully maneuvering out of the way so I'd take modern brakes any day.
Although the bike world has moved on, I don't see it as better or worse, just different. The majority of Carbon frames are made in Taiwan including big names like Colnago and I think most if not all of Campagnolo's production is now in Romania. Campag could be a case in point of not moving with the times. They are lagging behind on disc brake technology, eps shifting has its issues, not many teams are selecting to run Campagnolo. I think the last TDF 17 teams ran Shimano, 4 Campag and possibly more teams will run SRAM than Campag this year.
The times, they are a changing
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Robbied196":1phpflb3 said:I'm another one who grew up with what is now considered 'retro' but I'm not anti modern bikes. I've had this debate a few times with various cycling people. To me its just two fundimetally different production techniques, the end result is like comparing an apple with an orange. I get the romance of craftsman built steel over a moulded piece of plastic but both have their place.
Braking is a key point, retro slows you down, modern stops you. No matter how carefully you ride you can meet a situation where you need to stop quick. Retro is more a combination of slowing down and hopefully maneuvering out of the way so I'd take modern brakes any day.
Although the bike world has moved on, I don't see it as better or worse, just different. The majority of Carbon frames are made in Taiwan including big names like Colnago and I think most if not all of Campagnolo's production is now in Romania. Campag could be a case in point of not moving with the times. They are lagging behind on disc brake technology, eps shifting has its issues, not many teams are selecting to run Campagnolo. I think the last TDF 17 teams ran Shimano, 4 Campag and possibly more teams will run SRAM than Campag this year.
The times, they are a changing
You rarely see a classic car drive who doesn't have a modern daily driver!
There have been some interesting posts since I started this - from people like me who stumbled back into it for the nostalgia through to those who feel some kind of entitlement because they still have their bikes that they bought in the 70s
I suppose that's forums for you
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Robbied196":3035genk said:I'm another one who grew up with what is now considered 'retro' but I'm not anti modern bikes. I've had this debate a few times with various cycling people. To me its just two fundimetally different production techniques, the end result is like comparing an apple with an orange. I get the romance of craftsman built steel over a moulded piece of plastic but both have their place.
Braking is a key point, retro slows you down, modern stops you. No matter how carefully you ride you can meet a situation where you need to stop quick. Retro is more a combination of slowing down and hopefully maneuvering out of the way so I'd take modern brakes any day.
Although the bike world has moved on, I don't see it as better or worse, just different. The majority of Carbon frames are made in Taiwan including big names like Colnago and I think most if not all of Campagnolo's production is now in Romania. Campag could be a case in point of not moving with the times. They are lagging behind on disc brake technology, eps shifting has its issues, not many teams are selecting to run Campagnolo. I think the last TDF 17 teams ran Shimano, 4 Campag and possibly more teams will run SRAM than Campag this year.
The times, they are a changing
That's pretty much how I view things.
Out of all my cycling buddies I'm the only one with the retrobike bug, the rest all use the latest kit.
I think many view our passion for retro bikes as odd, if we condemn the obvious qualities of modern bikes we will just come across as loons.
I stumbled into this just because the bike I lusted for in the late 80s and could not afford at the time came up for sale ... now I have just spent £60 on some 30 year old brake cable housing ... Where is the sense in that!
Pionir
Retro Guru
I'm interested to know when brakes became "modern"? Just when you put on a disk brake?
My first "proper" bike had Shimano Exage calipers/levers and over the years I put on 600 tricolour calipers and levers and they've always been fine to me.
The biggest improvement I noticed from my "ordinary" Raleigh Esprit was the braking surfaces. The Esprit had leatherette pads and chrome rims vs aluminium rims and shimano pads.
My first "proper" bike had Shimano Exage calipers/levers and over the years I put on 600 tricolour calipers and levers and they've always been fine to me.
The biggest improvement I noticed from my "ordinary" Raleigh Esprit was the braking surfaces. The Esprit had leatherette pads and chrome rims vs aluminium rims and shimano pads.
carltoncid
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I don't have an obsession, but i seem to be surrounded by people obsessed telling me i do
Had a bad accident and retired off the bike.
After a number of years of not cycling i decided to buy the cheapest lightweight runabout i could.
After a little look about, i thought joining a forum would produce the cheapest option.
Several thousand pounds later ... :facepalm:
Ive only the two bikes, and one of those is the runaround i wanted, though i only got that 6 months ago
You've seen the Hope pic on their site of the development of their hubs ?.
My collection is bigger and more varied than theirs
After a number of years of not cycling i decided to buy the cheapest lightweight runabout i could.
After a little look about, i thought joining a forum would produce the cheapest option.
Several thousand pounds later ... :facepalm:
Ive only the two bikes, and one of those is the runaround i wanted, though i only got that 6 months ago
You've seen the Hope pic on their site of the development of their hubs ?.
My collection is bigger and more varied than theirs
