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[utahdog2003]

my point all along was that if you're paying £82 for thumbies I hope its for VRC period correct reasons (which I have zero problems with) & not purely because you think they work better.

I just can't think of any reason why you'd be dragging your heels against the idea that there may be a contingent of the cycling community who actually believes that thumbshifters are the shifter style of choice. I never claimed they were the best for every situation, I just pointed out that it's not your place to declare them the worst...no matter how long you say you worked in the industry. I mean really...why would you have 'zero problems' with any of it? :roll:

just chill out

Did you really just suggest this for someone else? :?

 

[perry]

lets face it as cyclists were all pretty arrogant and of course our own views are the right ones

we all ride different stuff different places so what someone thinks is the absolute bollox another wouldnt touch if you gave it to them

lgf is a good bloke and im sure scant is too , just different people doing different things different ways . its too sunny to take all this seriously

i dont like the winking smiley , makes its use look smug

the real question this thread has asked is can silverclaw put together a second bike from the parts he carries in his first

 

[hamster]

that was true 12yrs ago maybe.. not anymore

Fair enough. But as my thumbies haven't stopped working in the past 12years (or indeed the 8 before that) I've never seen a need to succumb to marketing hype and quote "upgrade" them.

If you'll sub me the shifters, hub and cassette for a nice 9s setup I'm sure I'll enjoy it.

FWIW I have given up on indexing on my tandem as even with brand new XT mechs, XTR cables and only 7s I still cannot get the damn thing to index reliably when the cable run is 2.5 metres long...so back to thumbies!

 

[terryhfs]

Your tandem indexing problems are due to frame flex. Run the mech cable in an outer all the way to the chainstay. It might take a little more effort to move the shifter but it will work. Alternative is to run a bare inner along the top tube and down the seat stay.

You'll probably find you're getting phantom shifts with friction gears too.

 

[captain8track]

re:

thumbies are the best, I bout a NOS set last year for around 50euros, well, I can only ride 8speed cassettes but I don't give a damn, If I'm not strong enough for a 2x8speed setup I don't deserve to be on a hc xc bike anyways.

There is no other shifter as solid as theese pups, sure rapidfire is great! until the mud gets the gears, and goodbye... thoose of us that have seen the light, just switch to "friction" mode and smile...

I'm gonna get a pair of suntours for backup to...

 

[GoldenEraMTB]

And it can't be good for people who are getting into the scene.
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its the increase of people getting into the scene, bigger demand thats driving the prices up!

I have to disagree...shill bidding is to blame for many of the parts selling for a lot more than they are even worth to the vrc community.

Ebay making a change over to disguising bidder names is partly to blame...hard to find patterns when names can't be made out.

 

[SeeingisBelievingGTMuseum]

So.... does this mean all those old XT bikes are worth at least a buck and a half then?

 

[hamster]

Your tandem indexing problems are due to frame flex. Run the mech cable in an outer all the way to the chainstay. It might take a little more effort to move the shifter but it will work. Alternative is to run a bare inner along the top tube and down the seat stay.

You'll probably find you're getting phantom shifts with friction gears too.

I'm already running the whole lot along the top tube. I don't get ghost shifts so much as just inconsistent indexing. Thanks for the idea about running the lot in cable outer though.
The frame is a 17/15" in a direct lateral OS 531T, so it's about as stiff as these get, but I only ride with my 6 year old son on the back, which probably causes flex as most of the drive is from the front ;-)

 

[silverclaws]

Thumbies though, the shimano things, it is accepted XT is the best, but what is the actual difference between XT and Deore and LX ? From my observations, the actual shifter looks identical with XT and Deore, only the mounting brackets are the difference, and the different coloured tops. LX, the shifter casting looks slightly different, as well as the mounting bracket, so I have it in my mind to search for a lesser shifter at a lower cost to strip out the bits that my XT rh shifter needs, if my spindle build up to remove wear fails.

This silliness with XT shifters continues, mine are going on ebay, and I will make do with something other, perhaps suntour or a mix seeing as the LH shifter is already friction. I like indexing when it works on the rear mech, but friction on the front is fine.