What Happened to Campagnolo?

[novocaine]

I, along with all the others of limited intelligence, am waiting for you to quote the sources for your 70%. This is what we are here for on this site; dedicated as it is to absolutely nothing to do with the aesthetics of bicycles. Is that steam emanating from my ears as I try to form words?

Yer but you can prove anything with numbers....

 

[fguki]

So again! Right?: You just hold on to a detail or device so unimportant and irrelevant in the general picture of this discussion but keep on drilling and repeating your questions about it. Yes sir! That is (in the culture of a debate) very limited intelligence.

It simply doesnt matter shaite if it is in reality 70% or only 54% or even only 48% - maybe even only 23% ... it just doesnt matter!

Its plainly stupid to put forward a "thesis" or an argument only based on "Well I dont like it and find it ugly and hideous - It has become bad!" and justify your evaluation of the company (Campagnolo) with that.

And then, afterwards youre asking ME for specific quotes, numbers, charts or statistics about the number I said. That sir, is not only bold but also again pretty "stupid" to be honest. That is like arguing with the weapons of an 8 years old that literally has nothing more in store than his own "opinion".

Level 2 would be - at least - taking the other persons perspective in consideration, too when forming your argument. But as we have seen, we already failed there! Which basically at this point makes the whole thread or discussion pointless.

But go on! Let me go grab my popcorn!

 

[fguki]

Yer but you can prove anything with numbers....

No need for that! We live in an age where a "general consent" under a Facebook post is prove and evidence enough for some people.

"Hey everybody commented that its shit - so its definitely shit! I mean come on: I read it at Facebook!"

 

[novocaine]

No need for that! We live in an age where a "general consent" under a Facebook post is prove and evidence enough for some people.

"Hey everybody commented that its shit - so its definitely shit! I mean come on: I read it at Facebook!"

It wasn't an attack on you, I promise.

 

[fguki]

Didnt take it as an offence - I just found your comment interesting

 

[novocaine]

Didnt take it as an offence - I just found your comment interesting

Yer sorry. It was once said to me by a London cabbie after I pointed out that something like 60% of our doctors were immigrants (at the time) in response to a series of racial slurs and daily mail bull crap. I forgot not every one is in my head.

 

[pigman]

Hey pigman ...you are right! Next time I also stick to: "I dont like it - thats why it sucks and EVERYBODY hates it as well".

You didnt even get the general message of my post - but you pick out some rather minor detail or more stylistic device to make an argument about it and babble.

This sir, in psychology is an indicator for low intelligence. Im just saying

Now, lets all go back to our personal taste and opinion and make a valid and proven (!) general fact about it.

Maybe your post was too long and poorly worded for me to get the general gist. But then again, as you have said, I'm just a thicko and not quite up to your interlect.

But when someone quotes an absolute percentage about something, then that usually has empirical evidence behind it. And as a numerical value attached to something assumes some science, it usually carries more gravitas than an "in my opinion" type statement. But hey, you knew that and have now been caught with your panties down, so you sidestep, divert away to the other bits of your post and decide to call me stoopid in an attempt to redeem yourself.

Rather than let this descend into a petty argument, I'll leave contributing to this particular thread to others

 

[fguki]

"But hey, you knew that and have now been caught with your panties down, so you sidestep, divert away to the other bits of your post and decide to call me stoopid in an attempt to redeem yourself." ...

Good try at least! That was the best (childish) and definitely the most weird but entertaining part of it all.

 

[Canuk]

Campagnolo have been behind the curve for a few years now, especially on the tech. 2025 and STILL no gravel 1x electric groupset. It's a question of taste innit? There's enough on YouTube to suggest many people think Campagnolo has dropped the ball, in design and technology terms.

In this grim weather era for bike and components manufacturing, that could be dangerous position to be in, especially if the competition starts cost cutting/ consistently make better products....

 

[fguki]

I get what youre saying. And pointing out that they still didnt even manage to have a great gravel 1x electric groupset is a valid point!

However, does an equal / same number also post videos about how they like Campagnolo or the benefits of the company? Of course not! People at least "tend" to post videos (or comment) when they dislike something! Leading to very wrong general impressions sometimes! And some people use only that to be convinced and prove their points.

But anyways - I think we have it here now! All good ...