Wanted Wanted small Surly Troll, 1 x 1, Ogre or Karate Monkey frame
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Old School Grand Master
We've had a few krampi(?) through our hands. Quite popular, more GP i suppose.
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Ps nice tree, looks like an ash but unusually large if so
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let's talk bikesPs nice tree, looks like an ash but unusually large if so
flash
Retrobike Rider
Hi
Sorry I’ve not been in touch. I’m going to pass on the Ogre, I’ve had a few and the later version isn’t what I’m after.
I’m still looking for a small frame, Troll, 1x1, Karate Monkey and possibly an earlier Ogre, the cosmetics don’t have to be perfect, I like the lived on look.
I’m still interested in selling / swapping my medium Krampus frame and possibly the same for my Wednesday (complete, SS, small)…
Cheers
Sorry I’ve not been in touch. I’m going to pass on the Ogre, I’ve had a few and the later version isn’t what I’m after.
I’m still looking for a small frame, Troll, 1x1, Karate Monkey and possibly an earlier Ogre, the cosmetics don’t have to be perfect, I like the lived on look.
I’m still interested in selling / swapping my medium Krampus frame and possibly the same for my Wednesday (complete, SS, small)…
Cheers
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Hi, I've only come across this post today. Did you manage to find a small surly frame?
I have a 2011 small Troll in orange. It was my all year commuter bike a few years ago and whilst being a bit scruffy looking is structurally in good condition. The only issue that it has concerns the rim brake pivots. The threads on the pivots are the wrong pitch. Surly uses a different pitch from all other manufacturers! This has resulted in the pivots not fitting nicely. I only realised this when I first built up the bike after buying from the previous owner. I tried to use v-brakes and they didn't rotate smoothly. I ended up using disc brakes after sourcing a Surly Ogre/Troll rear break adaptor.
The frame has been sprayed on the inside with either GT85 or motorcycle chain lube to prevent rust. As I said this was my year round commuter bike.
If you are interested I can "dig" it out from the back of my spare room and take pictures for you. Currently I don't have a headset fitted to this frame and forks, but I do have the Surly rear disc adaptor and a seat clamp.
I'm up in Scotland but I have a box and packaging to be able to post to you. I've not thought about a price as I wanted to see if you'd found a frame first before tidying up my spare room to get my hands on it.
Cheers, J.
I have a 2011 small Troll in orange. It was my all year commuter bike a few years ago and whilst being a bit scruffy looking is structurally in good condition. The only issue that it has concerns the rim brake pivots. The threads on the pivots are the wrong pitch. Surly uses a different pitch from all other manufacturers! This has resulted in the pivots not fitting nicely. I only realised this when I first built up the bike after buying from the previous owner. I tried to use v-brakes and they didn't rotate smoothly. I ended up using disc brakes after sourcing a Surly Ogre/Troll rear break adaptor.
The frame has been sprayed on the inside with either GT85 or motorcycle chain lube to prevent rust. As I said this was my year round commuter bike.
If you are interested I can "dig" it out from the back of my spare room and take pictures for you. Currently I don't have a headset fitted to this frame and forks, but I do have the Surly rear disc adaptor and a seat clamp.
I'm up in Scotland but I have a box and packaging to be able to post to you. I've not thought about a price as I wanted to see if you'd found a frame first before tidying up my spare room to get my hands on it.
Cheers, J.
Hi,
Sorry not able to PM yet, so here's a few pics for you. TBH the frame is in better condition than I remembered. I do have the Surly rear disc adaptor and I'm sure that I can find a Surly seat collar too. It's not being used and most probably never will as I'm more of a fan of larger diameter wheels. I'd be happy to let it go for £200 if you also cover the cost of postage. I'm very sure that I have boxes large enough to safely post this. J.
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Retrobike Rider
It looks good.
That should be fine. Can I just clarify what you mean about the brake pivots. Are the canti studs fitted OK or have the threads in the frame and forks been damaged?
I have lots of 29 wheels, rims, tyres, etc if you need anything and possibly a spare Krampus frameset…
That should be fine. Can I just clarify what you mean about the brake pivots. Are the canti studs fitted OK or have the threads in the frame and forks been damaged?
I have lots of 29 wheels, rims, tyres, etc if you need anything and possibly a spare Krampus frameset…
Hi, When I bought the frame and forks I'd planned on using V-brakes. It made fitting mudguards and rack easier. But when the V-brakes were installed I noticed that they'd not pivot freely once the pivot bolt was tight. A bit of investigation found that the pivots were the wrong pitch and forced into the frame. I contacted the guy I bought it from and he confirmed this, but added if the V-brakes were used along with a brake booster they would pivot and operate as intended. As the wheels that I'd planned to use had both disc hubs and rim brake rims, I fitted disc brakes, which on hindsight were a better option for winter commuting.
I've never investigated the brake bosses on the frame any further, but I'd imagine that the threads may be damaged. I will supply the Surly Ogre/Troll rear brake adaptor with the frame. If you wanted to fit V-brakes or cantilever brakes to your single speed bike I also have a small Karate Monkey frame which I could maybe be tempted to part with.
With regard to your 29er parts, what rims and tyres do you have? I've already got a Krampus frame that I'll be building up and looking for parts to use 29+ tyres.
flash
Retrobike Rider
I tend to use V or Canti brakes so unfortunately I don’t think the Troll would work for me. I would be interested in hearing more about the Karate Monkey frame. Frame or frameset? Roughly what year? How much would you be after for it? I’ve had a “few” and I do have some Rabbit Hole rimmed wheels plus a built up Dually rimmed front wheel and matching rim I was planning to get built up fixed gear. I’ll hang onto the Rabbit Holed wheels but if the others are of interest I’ll dig them out and do pics. I think I also have a pair of Knard tyres in the attic, again if you’re interested please let me know.
The KM is 2010. It's the version that still retained the rim-brake pivots and the lack of chainstay bridge. I think that it was the first year to have the dropped top-tube with the bracing tube. Black and in a nicer condition than the Troll. I've also got a spare set of stickers for this too. Again as with all my bikes it's been treated internally. I've got frame and forks and I know that the brake pivots are working as I've used them myself. It's got a headset fitted, but I'm wanting to keep that. I'd consider £300 for this not including postage, but willing to agree on a trade for the Dually rims and front wheel. What condition are the rims and what hub is the front built around. Pictures would be nice and I'll do likewise for the KM.
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