when I first got it I weighed it at 4.18lbs which seemed contradictory to other owners Bizango's coming in at under 4lbs. Turns out there was half a seat post stuffed down the seat tube. The sprayer/framebuilder melted it out along with removing hose mounts and adding cable stops that had previously been removed :roll: Once I'd got it back despite all the new paint it weighed in at 4.05lbs Probably would have been even lighter with the original paint as it always looks quite thin on these frames.